anatoly techtonik wrote:
So, there won't be any package management tool shipped with Python 2.7 and users will have to download and install `setuptools` manually as before:
Until the discussed package management tools support a robust inventory and uninstallation system that plays well with directly installed Python packages, you won't find widespread support on python-dev for endorsing any of them. Yes, the people who use them love them for good and valid reasons, but those who absolutely detest them also do so for good and valid reasons. While this is still the case, it would be highly inappropriate for python-dev to include bootstrap scripts that direct users to these systems, as they're all flawed in their current incarnations (this isn't the packaging systems' fault - the flaws are largely due to a lack of supporting infrastructure in the standard library). The distutils2 work and the various metadata PEPs that have been approved recently are all about addressing those limitations in the infrastructure. With those in place and flowing through the Python package management ecosystem, bootstrapping interoperable package management tools is likely to become a reasonable option in the future. But we aren't there yet, and won't be for 2.7 or 3.2. From an outsider's perspective, the 3.3 time frame appears to be very possible though. Regards, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan | ncoghlan@gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia ---------------------------------------------------------------