On Dec 9, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Robert Collins
wrote: On 10 December 2015 at 08:59, Ralf Gommers
wrote: And even modern pips can be told *not to call wheel*.
Isn't that something you can ignore? If the plan for pip anyway is to always go sdist-wheel-install, why support this flag for a new build interface?
Well, there's still debate about that. I think its waste and will piss developers off (heck, even in tox OpenStack folk find sdist too long and disable it routinely - we've added CI checks that sdist doesn't error to allow keeping the local developer workflow smooth).
I’m in process of moving so I’m a bit scattered brained at the moment and I don’t have the time to look into the specifics but if this is for the build interface (vs the shim) then I don’t think we should support plain ``install``. Opting into the new format should mandate the capability of producing a wheel and then installing from that instead of being able to directly install. If we consider the setuptools/distutils era to be “Make it Work”, then we’re now at “Make it Right”, making it fast can come later but sacrificing correctness for speed isn’t something I think we should be doing and so speed arguments (vs why it’s more correct to do X instead of Y) don’t matter much to me. ----------------- Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA