Another thing. Is the search index on pypi.python.org no longer being updated? Searching for mypy-lang still takes you to mypy-lang 0.2.0, even though 0.3.1 has been released many weeks ago. I just updated the typing package and searching for that still shows the old versions. On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Guido van Rossum <guido@python.org> wrote:
Oh well. I wonder if offering money would change the situation.
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Richard Jones <richard@python.org> wrote:
Hi Guido,
Because this sort of thing has come up a lot in the past, and because I've copped trouble for mishandling it in the past, I took the trouble of writing up a formal description of how I handle these sorts of issues:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1elum7ENjQb0dLB4ATfYNtnXYVLUzsKacc0VWnHHJ...
I believe Donald follows the same, or a very similar procedure.
In short, all that can be done has been done, from my perspective. Someone has published their module, and regardless of any opinion of it, or desire to also use that name, I have to respect that they published first. In the absence of explicit consent from them to do anything, my hands are tied. I've taken unilateral action in the past to my personal detriment.
Of course, once I'm no longer a PyPI admin (I look forward to the day so very much) someone else will have to make these decisions.
Richard
On 16 April 2016 at 09:29, Guido van Rossum <guido@python.org> wrote:
Brett suggested I ask the kind folks here.
As you may or may not know, there's an old unmaintained "mypy" package on PyPI that attracts a fair amount of downloads from people trying to download mypy the type checker. We then get bug reports and have to explain in our tracker that they have to use "pip install mypy-lang" instead.
Query: https://github.com/python/mypy/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue++dbutils+
That mypy package was last updated in 2011, and it's a quite forgettable combination of copied open-source packages and a little bit of glue code presumably written by the package author. Both Donald and myself have approached the owner (zsp007@gmail.com) but not received any response. Is there a "higher authority" to whom we can appeal this, or are we just stuck with this situation?
As Brett wrote part of the problem, though, is the mypy project has 2244 downloads in the last month which shows it's being used and we don't want to end up in an npm/left_pad situation. (But how many of those downloads are misguided attempts to install mypy-lang?)
One possibility, if people aren't happy with me or Jukka taking over owhership of the old mypy package, would be for someone (not me or Jukka) to take ownership of that package just so they can update the PyPI home page for that package with a prominent note telling people looking for Jukka's type checker to use mypy-lang instead.
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