I'd like to call "Ya aint gonna need it" on the extras feature of setuptools. As far as I can tell, extras are just a way to avoid fine-grained packages. Is this benefit worth the complexity? I don't think so. It violates "There's Only One Way To Do It" and increases the complexity of setuptools. Setuptools is wonderful but it is complex. I think it would be helpful to make it simpler and I really don't see a need for extras. I think a similar argument could be made against the tests_require feature. (In the presence of the extras feature, it's puzzling that this isn't handled as an extra.) Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:jim@zope.com Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714 http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org