I think that, going forward, Python packaging tools (not installation tools; they should remain as they are, for backwards compatibility) should move to supporting only One Package Per Project. And, each project should have the same name as the package inside. In the future, people should have to download an old copy of distutils deliberately if they want to build projects with several packages inside; we should stop releasing tools that support or encourage it. 1. It is easier on developers who want to "import escher" to know that they can simply list "escher" as a dependency instead of having to guess whether it's "Escher" or "EscherProject" or whether it's part of a larger "lithographers" project or whether, heaven forbid, the author decided to redundantly call the project "pyescher". 2. This practice would make PyPI's name make actual sense. It actually claims to be (you can check the site!) the "Python *Package* Index" whereas in fact it's currently nothing of the sort! It's really an index of "projects" that might have zero, one, or several packages inside of them. We should move all projects towards the good behavior of the ones that already name themselves after the single package that they contain. 3. I think the whole idea of putting several packages in a project was useful back when dependencies didn't exist. It made sense, in ancient days, for "ZODB" to include "transaction" because there was no other way to make sure they got installed together. But now that dependencies are possible, there is no longer a need for multiple- package project that outweights the costs involved. 4. The current scheme makes it impossible to choose a "safe" package name when creating and registering a new package. Just because there's no "escher" *project* when you look at PyPI doesn't mean that some project doesn't have an "escher" package hidden inside. You could choose a package name, distribute your product, and only find out later that your users cannot install both your product and another product simultaneously because the other product was, in fact, already using that package name but without your knowing it. -- Brandon Craig Rhodes brandon@rhodesmill.org http://rhodesmill.org/brandon