On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 3:29 AM, Donald Stufft <donald@stufft.io> wrote:

Now you install a new version of setuptools that breaks the OS installed gyp and suddenly now you can’t build your static files anymore.

gyp or node-gyp don't depend on python-setuptools, at least not on Ubuntu. Are you referring to some concrete pkg_resources issue, assuming gyp uses entrypoints api, and that api changed in some setuptools version?

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 3:33 AM, Nathaniel Smith <njs@pobox.com> wrote:

Using a virtualenv is cheap

Virtualenvs broke down on me and had mindboggling bugs one too many times for me to consider them "cheap" to use. They make things weird (ever tried to load debug symbols for a python from a virtualenv in gdb?)

I'm not saying they aren't useful.

Thanks,
-- Ionel Cristian Mărieș, http://blog.ionelmc.ro