On 29 Oct 2015 00:31, "Ralf Gommers" <ralf.gommers@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Brett Cannon <brett@python.org> wrote:
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>> Nathaniel's comment about how this might actually give pip a leg up on conda also sounds nice to me as I have enough worry about having a fissure in 1D along the Python 2/3 line, and I'm constantly worried that the scientific community is going to riot and make it a 2D fissure along Python 2/3, pip/conda axes and split effort, documentation, etc.
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> If it helps you sleep: I'm confident that no one is planning this particular riot. It takes little work to support pip and conda - the hard issues are mostly with building, not installing.
Last time I checked "pip in a conda env" was also pretty well behaved, so conda seems to be settling in fairly well to being a per-user cross platform alternative to apt, yum/dnf, homebrew, nix, etc, rather than tackling the same Python specific niche as pip & virtualenv.
> Smaller riots like breaking ``python setup.py install`` recommending ``pip install .`` instead[1] are in the cards though:)
Given the PyPA panel at PyCon US a few years ago ended up being subtitled "'./setup.py install' must die", I'd be surprised if that provoked a riot. I guess even if it does, you'll have plenty of folks prepared to help with crowd control :)
Cheers,
Nick.