We did separate build from install. Now we just want to
be able to build without [having to emulate] distutils; just
having some dependencies installed before setup.py runs
would also be a great boon.
I'm reading part of this conversation as "a simple
bdist_wheel bug is a reason to do a lot of work standardizing
file formats" which I find unfortunate.
If he is still up for it let
Robert implement his own PEP as the way forward for build
system abstraction. The extra PEPs are just delaying action.
On 3 May
2016 at 17:47, Donald Stufft <donald@stufft.io>
wrote:
> It will likely get decided as part of the build system
PEP, whenever that
> gets picked up again.
Yes, but on 15th March
(https://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2016-March/028457.html)
Robert posted
> Just to set expectations: this whole process seems
stalled to me; I'm
> going to context switch and focus on things that can
move forward.
> Someone please ping me when its relevant to put effort
in again :).
And I think that's right. The whole build system PEP issue
appears
stalled from a lack of someone willing (or with the time) to
make a
call on the approach we take.
As far as I'm aware, the decision remains with Nick. With
the possible
exception of Donald's proposal (which AFAIK never got
formally
published as a PEP) everything that can be said on the other
proposals
has been said, and the remaining differences are ones of
choice of
approach rather than anything affecting capabilities.
(Robert's
message at https://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2016-March/028437.html
summarised the state of the 3 proposals at the time).
I think this is something that should be resolved - we don't
appear to
be gaining anything by waiting, and until we have a decision
on the
approach that's being taken, we aren't going to get anyone
writing
code for their preferred option.
Nick - do you have the time to pick this up? Or does it need
someone
to step up as BDFL-delegate? Robert, Nathaniel, do you have
time to
spend on a final round of discussion on this, on the
assumption that
the goal will be a final decision at the end of it? Donald,
do you
have the time and interest to complete and publish your
proposal?
Paul
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