On 17 July 2013 23:18, Brett Cannon <brett@python.org> wrote:

As of right now the User's Guide doesn't mention using setuptools for building (beyond an empty header listing) and goes with the old distutils setup.py approach. It also words things like you don't know how to really use Python and are starting a project entirely from scratch.

Just picking up on this question:

1. As Brett says, is the recommendation that everyone should use setuptools?

2. If that's the case, why aren't we bundling setuptools in the same way that we are bundling pip?

3. If we were bundling setuptools, pip wouldn't need to go through the rigmarole of vendoring it.

Paul.