Packaging & Distribution Mini-Summit at PyCon US

As folks may be aware, I am moderating a panel called "Directions in Packaging" on the Saturday afternoon at PyCon US. Before that though, I am also organising what I am calling a "Packaging & Distribution Mini-Summit" as an open space on the Friday night (we have one of the larger open space rooms reserved, so we should have a fair bit of space if a decent crowd turns up). An overview of what I'm hoping we can achieve at the session is at https://us.pycon.org/2013/community/openspaces/packaginganddistributionminis... (that page should be editable by anyone that has registered for PyCon US). We're certainly not going to resolve all our disagreements and come up with a grand plan to "fix Python packaging" in a couple of hours on a Friday night. My hopes are far more modest: that we can get an idea of the different things people are worried about and trying to resolve, and start pondering ways we can work towards an cooperative ecosystem of interoperable tools, rather than the "one tool to rule them all" model of distutils. I fully expect that discussions on the Friday night will continue as hallway track discussions during the conference, development efforts at the sprints, and, of course, requests for feedback on the mailing lists (since there will likely be quite a few interested people that won't be present at PyCon US). This is not a new conversation - it is one that has been going on for years, and while some improvements have been made, we still have a long way to go. For those that are able to make it, I look forward to meeting you in person in March :) Regards, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan | ncoghlan@gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia

On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 18:15 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
As folks may be aware, I am moderating a panel called "Directions in Packaging" on the Saturday afternoon at PyCon US.
Before that though, I am also organising what I am calling a "Packaging & Distribution Mini-Summit" as an open space on the Friday night (we have one of the larger open space rooms reserved, so we should have a fair bit of space if a decent crowd turns up).
An overview of what I'm hoping we can achieve at the session is at https://us.pycon.org/2013/community/openspaces/packaginganddistributionminis... (that page should be editable by anyone that has registered for PyCon US).
Sounds great, especially since as i am joining the seemlingly ongoing party of hacking and releasing code in this arena :) Am not going to make it to Pycon US this year, though. Any summaries, blog posts or video streaming greatly appreicated! best, holger

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan@gmail.com> wrote:
As folks may be aware, I am moderating a panel called "Directions in Packaging" on the Saturday afternoon at PyCon US.
Before that though, I am also organising what I am calling a "Packaging & Distribution Mini-Summit" as an open space on the Friday night (we have one of the larger open space rooms reserved, so we should have a fair bit of space if a decent crowd turns up).
I wasn't going to be at PyCon, but I changed my plans specifically to participate in this. Thanks for setting this up.
An overview of what I'm hoping we can achieve at the session is at https://us.pycon.org/2013/community/openspaces/packaginganddistributionminis... (that page should be editable by anyone that has registered for PyCon US).
Cool. A major difficulty in these sorts of discussions is that people have different problems they want to solve and argue about solutions without clearly stating their problems. If you don't mind, I'll try to find some time in the next few days to add a section to that page to list goals/problems. It might also be a good idea to link to or assemble a list of PEPs that people are encouraged to review ahead of time as homework. Jim -- Jim Fulton http://www.linkedin.com/in/jimfulton Jerky is better than bacon! http://zo.pe/Kqm

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Jim Fulton <jim@zope.com> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan@gmail.com> wrote:
As folks may be aware, I am moderating a panel called "Directions in Packaging" on the Saturday afternoon at PyCon US.
Before that though, I am also organising what I am calling a "Packaging & Distribution Mini-Summit" as an open space on the Friday night (we have one of the larger open space rooms reserved, so we should have a fair bit of space if a decent crowd turns up).
I wasn't going to be at PyCon, but I changed my plans specifically to participate in this. Thanks for setting this up.
An overview of what I'm hoping we can achieve at the session is at https://us.pycon.org/2013/community/openspaces/packaginganddistributionminis... (that page should be editable by anyone that has registered for PyCon US).
Cool. A major difficulty in these sorts of discussions is that people have different problems they want to solve and argue about solutions without clearly stating their problems.
If you don't mind, I'll try to find some time in the next few days to add a section to that page to list goals/problems.
OK, well, hopefully better late than never. I took a stab at adding this to the end of: https://us.pycon.org/2013/community/openspaces/packaginganddistributionminis... Jim -- Jim Fulton http://www.linkedin.com/in/jimfulton
participants (4)
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Christian Theune
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holger krekel
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Jim Fulton
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Nick Coghlan