I'm getting ready to announce/release a new project I've been working on over the past week or so called "buildutils". It's a set of extensions to distutils that are oriented toward the build process. For example, there are commands for generating MD5/SHA-1 checksum files for distributables, running py.test based unit tests, pushing doc/distributables to another site via ssh/scp, etc. My goal is to remove make from my python development process. The package consists almost entirely of additional distutils commands; there's very little additional apparatus. It uses setuptools, taking advantage of its dependency resolution features to install command dependencies when commands are executed, which lets us put all commands in the box but not require dependencies until commands are actually used. Everything is still a little rough but there's more information here: http://buildutils.lesscode.org/ I was wondering if there would be any interest in directing mailing list discussion to the distutils-sig mailing list. Build commands may not be part of the SIG's charter but I figure most of the discussion will be relevant. The expertise of the members of this list would be a huge help. Perhaps I can try to point command development related discussion here while pushing support and usage related discussion to a different list? I apologize if I'm being dense. I'm not familiar with SIG process but would like to involve as much of the community as possible. Thanks, Ryan Tomayko rtomayko@gmail.com http://naeblis.cx/rtomayko/