Folks, thanks for the help on distutils-based packages to try. Numeric and PyXML now install flawlessly on the Mac, I'll be mailing the diffs to Greg tomorrow. If someone else wants to play with distutils on the Mac please let me know: I've also had to fix a few bugs in the mkcwproject module, so unless you're using MacPython from the CVS server you'll need to get a newer copy from me. Oh yes: PyOpenGL and Linkchecker, which were also suggested as test cases, were too much work initially. PyOpenGL has "if sys.platform == win32" all over the place and expects that anything that isn't win32 is unix and it expects that a tcl/tk source distribution is available, Linkchecker uses absolute unix pathnames and uses various tricks from the distutils config stuff, which aren't implemented yet (and which may actually be rather difficult to implement). -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen@oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.oratrix.nl/~jack | ++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/ ++++