On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:47 AM, anatoly techtonik wrote:

Hello,

Does anybody care that PyPI password are stored in a well-known location in cleartext and developers are forced to store them when they submit packages for review? http://bugs.python.org/issue9995

We have hundreds of bugs to fix for distutils. If you propose a patch + test, things will speed up. There are already tests for various register/upload scenarii, so it should not be hard to copy-paste one to create your test

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On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Jim Fulton wrote:

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Tarek Ziadé wrote:

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On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:47 AM, anatoly techtonik wrote:

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Hello,

Does anybody care that PyPI password are stored in a well-known location in cleartext and developers are forced to store them when they submit packages for review? http://bugs.python.org/issue9995

We have hundreds of bugs to fix for distutils. If you propose a patch + test, things will speed up. There are already tests for various register/upload scenarii, so it should not be hard to copy-paste one to create your test

While that's usually a reasonable response, this isn't a bug.

I should have looked more carefully at the issue. The refusal to use a password without storing it *is* a fairly narrow bug.

This is a case where we need to come up with a better way of doing things. Someone needs to propose something and folks need to weigh in.

I would love to see a solution to the broader problem. I really don't want to have to enter a password every time I upload a package. I guess a good solution would be to integrate with existing password-management tools. This could be prototyped as an a separate upload tool. JIm -- Jim Fulton

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote:

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I should have looked more carefully at the issue. The refusal to use a password without storing it *is* a fairly narrow bug.

Yes this is a bug. the password should be reused by upload. There's code for this but it seems to fails

Fix landed. http://bugs.python.org/issue9995

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This is a case where we need to come up with a better way of doing things. Someone needs to propose something and folks need to weigh in.

I would love to see a solution to the broader problem.

I really don't want to have to enter a password every time I upload a package.

me neither :)

Does anybody know where is documentation on supported authentication in PyPI?

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I guess a good solution would be to integrate with existing password-management tools. This could be prototyped as an a separate upload tool.

I have mentored a project in GSOC last year exactly for this case: keyring (avialable at PyPI)

It is already successfully used in Mercurial (mercurial-keyring) that suffers the same problem when doing http/https

The next step was to integrate keyring in distutils/upload but was not done yet due to a lack of time.

Network protection is still weak. The password is sent nearly in cleartext. -- anatoly t.

2010/11/3 Jim Fulton :

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 3:56 PM, anatoly techtonik wrote:

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On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote:

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I should have looked more carefully at the issue. The refusal to use a password without storing it *is* a fairly narrow bug.

Yes this is a bug. the password should be reused by upload. There's code for this but it seems to fails

Fix landed. http://bugs.python.org/issue9995

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This is a case where we need to come up with a better way of doing things. Someone needs to propose something and folks need to weigh in.

I would love to see a solution to the broader problem.

I really don't want to have to enter a password every time I upload a package.

me neither :)

Does anybody know where is documentation on supported authentication in PyPI?

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I guess a good solution would be to integrate with existing password-management tools. This could be prototyped as an a separate upload tool.

I have mentored a project in GSOC last year exactly for this case: keyring (avialable at PyPI)

It is already successfully used in Mercurial (mercurial-keyring) that suffers the same problem when doing http/https

The next step was to integrate keyring in distutils/upload but was not done yet due to a lack of time.

Network protection is still weak. The password is sent nearly in cleartext.

Right, we'd want to use https as well. Presumably, that's the easy part.

+1.

Jim

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