Re: [Python-checkins] python/dist/src/Lib/distutils sysconfig.py,1.52,1.53
"AMK" == Andrew Kuchling
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AMK> On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 12:11:11PM -0800, AMK> jhylton@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
Remove use of string module and reflow a couple of long lines.
AMK> Note that the use of string methods means the end of 1.5.2 AMK> compatibility. If we're doing that, then there are many more AMK> modernizations that can be done to the Distutils code. Excellent point! Do people sitll care about Python 1.5.2 support moving forward? I'd propose to make the last distutils release for 1.5.2 the final release and make distutils conform to modern Python. Jeremy
It doesn't appear that there has been any interest in standalone distutils releases since Python 2.2 was released. I just checked and saw that the last release of distutils separate from Python was 1.0.2. This release was done around April 2001. And, suggesting that April is not the cruelest month after all, Python 1.5.2 was released in April 1999. I'm happy to let the winter snow cover over 1.5.2 support and forget it come spring of 2003 and a Python 2.3 final release. Jeremy
Jeremy Hylton
It doesn't appear that there has been any interest in standalone distutils releases since Python 2.2 was released.
I just checked and saw that the last release of distutils separate from Python was 1.0.2. This release was done around April 2001. And, suggesting that April is not the cruelest month after all, Python 1.5.2 was released in April 1999. I'm happy to let the winter snow cover over 1.5.2 support and forget it come spring of 2003 and a Python 2.3 final release.
I have (totally unofficially) distributed CVS versions of distutils to several people, so that they can try out the recent bdist_wininst improvements. I was thinking that maybe we (who is we?) should release a new distutils version when this is finished, but I'm not sure if there are still Python 1.5.2 users out there. With the current state, it would be easy to do this last release even compatible for them, and after that we could move on with new cool coding styles, and using new features. Thomas
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 10:17:19PM +0100, Thomas Heller wrote:
I was thinking that maybe we (who is we?) should release a new distutils version when this is finished, but I'm not sure if there are still Python 1.5.2 users out there.
We could roll a Distutils 1.0.3 release from the code that's in Python 2.2.2 (assuming no 2.x-isms crept in). Maybe that will be enough for the 1.5.2 holdouts? If not, then a further Distutils 1.0.4 can come from the Distutils code in 2.3, once the use of string methods is backed out. --amk
Jeremy Hylton wrote:
"AMK" == Andrew Kuchling
writes: AMK> On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 12:11:11PM -0800, AMK> jhylton@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
Remove use of string module and reflow a couple of long lines.
AMK> Note that the use of string methods means the end of 1.5.2 AMK> compatibility. If we're doing that, then there are many more AMK> modernizations that can be done to the Distutils code.
Excellent point!
Do people sitll care about Python 1.5.2 support moving forward? I'd propose to make the last distutils release for 1.5.2 the final release and make distutils conform to modern Python.
-1. Python 1.5.2 is still in active use out there. It's not worth breaking code just for cosmetic reasons. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH _______________________________________________________________________ eGenix.com -- Makers of the Python mx Extensions: mxDateTime,mxODBC,... Python Consulting: http://www.egenix.com/ Python Software: http://www.egenix.com/files/python/
Thomas Heller wrote:
Jeremy Hylton
writes: It doesn't appear that there has been any interest in standalone distutils releases since Python 2.2 was released.
I just checked and saw that the last release of distutils separate from Python was 1.0.2. This release was done around April 2001. And, suggesting that April is not the cruelest month after all, Python 1.5.2 was released in April 1999. I'm happy to let the winter snow cover over 1.5.2 support and forget it come spring of 2003 and a Python 2.3 final release.
I have (totally unofficially) distributed CVS versions of distutils to several people, so that they can try out the recent bdist_wininst improvements.
I was thinking that maybe we (who is we?) should release a new distutils version when this is finished, but I'm not sure if there are still Python 1.5.2 users out there.
There are.
With the current state, it would be easy to do this last release even compatible for them, and after that we could move on with new cool coding styles, and using new features.
Provided that new coding styles retain Python 2.1 compatibility, +0, otherwise -1. In distutils, performance is not relevant, so new coding styles wouldn't buy us anything much. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH _______________________________________________________________________ eGenix.com -- Makers of the Python mx Extensions: mxDateTime,mxODBC,... Python Consulting: http://www.egenix.com/ Python Software: http://www.egenix.com/files/python/
participants (4)
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A.M. Kuchling
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Jeremy Hylton
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M.-A. Lemburg
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Thomas Heller