I'm going to unsubscribe from this list, as it appears to be getting little but spam any more. I'll still be available on the Packaging topic on Discourse (https://discuss.python.org/c/packaging/14).
To be honest, I think it's time to discontinue this list. But that's for others to decide.
Paul
If it's not already the case, could someone configure the list so that only subscribers can send messages?
If we've already got any obvious anti-spam measures like that in place, then I'm starting to agree that the signal to noise ratio has fallen too low. Of the 10 latest conversations in the archive, 5 are spam, 2 are people announcing that they're leaving the list, 2 real questions getting no discussion, and 1 FYI about a discussion happening on Discourse.
Thomas
On Mon, 21 Sep 2020, at 14:33, Paul Moore wrote:
I'm going to unsubscribe from this list, as it appears to be getting little but spam any more. I'll still be available on the Packaging topic on Discourse (https://discuss.python.org/c/packaging/14).
To be honest, I think it's time to discontinue this list. But that's for others to decide.
Paul
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Another possible middle ground between shuttering the list entirely and maintaining the spam would be (if possible) to close the list to new membership, but keep the existing list in place for the purpose of announcing important changes and things that need community input on the discourse.
On 9/21/20 9:50 AM, Thomas Kluyver wrote:
If it's not already the case, could someone configure the list so that only subscribers can send messages?
If we've already got any obvious anti-spam measures like that in place, then I'm starting to agree that the signal to noise ratio has fallen too low. Of the 10 latest conversations in the archive, 5 are spam, 2 are people announcing that they're leaving the list, 2 real questions getting no discussion, and 1 FYI about a discussion happening on Discourse.
Thomas
On Mon, 21 Sep 2020, at 14:33, Paul Moore wrote:
I'm going to unsubscribe from this list, as it appears to be getting little but spam any more. I'll still be available on the Packaging topic on Discourse (https://discuss.python.org/c/packaging/14).
To be honest, I think it's time to discontinue this list. But that's for others to decide.
Paul
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If we want a one-way announcement list, I'd say we're better off either using pypi-announce (which already has some announcements that aren't strictly about PyPI), or setting up a new packaging-announce list.
Thomas
On Mon, 21 Sep 2020, at 15:09, Paul Ganssle wrote:
Another possible middle ground between shuttering the list entirely and maintaining the spam would be (if possible) to close the list to new membership, but keep the existing list in place for the purpose of announcing important changes and things that need community input on the discourse.
On 9/21/20 9:50 AM, Thomas Kluyver wrote:
If it's not already the case, could someone configure the list so that only subscribers can send messages?
If we've already got any obvious anti-spam measures like that in place, then I'm starting to agree that the signal to noise ratio has fallen too low. Of the 10 latest conversations in the archive, 5 are spam, 2 are people announcing that they're leaving the list, 2 real questions getting no discussion, and 1 FYI about a discussion happening on Discourse.
Thomas
On Mon, 21 Sep 2020, at 14:33, Paul Moore wrote:
I'm going to unsubscribe from this list, as it appears to be getting little but spam any more. I'll still be available on the Packaging topic on Discourse (https://discuss.python.org/c/packaging/14).
To be honest, I think it's time to discontinue this list. But that's for others to decide.
Paul
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It's also possible to moderate new members such that their first message is flagged and a moderator has to clear that flag upon receipt of the first message. This is why the code quality list doesn't get spam. I'm happy to help with that here too if this list is on MM3
Sent from my phone with my typo-happy thumbs. Please excuse my brevity
On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 09:17 Thomas Kluyver thomas@kluyver.me.uk wrote:
If we want a one-way announcement list, I'd say we're better off either using pypi-announce (which already has some announcements that aren't strictly about PyPI), or setting up a new packaging-announce list.
Thomas
On Mon, 21 Sep 2020, at 15:09, Paul Ganssle wrote:
Another possible middle ground between shuttering the list entirely and maintaining the spam would be (if possible) to close the list to new membership, but keep the existing list in place for the purpose of announcing important changes and things that need community input on the discourse.
On 9/21/20 9:50 AM, Thomas Kluyver wrote:
If it's not already the case, could someone configure the list so that
only subscribers can send messages?
If we've already got any obvious anti-spam measures like that in place,
then I'm starting to agree that the signal to noise ratio has fallen too low. Of the 10 latest conversations in the archive, 5 are spam, 2 are people announcing that they're leaving the list, 2 real questions getting no discussion, and 1 FYI about a discussion happening on Discourse.
Thomas
On Mon, 21 Sep 2020, at 14:33, Paul Moore wrote:
I'm going to unsubscribe from this list, as it appears to be getting little but spam any more. I'll still be available on the Packaging topic on Discourse (https://discuss.python.org/c/packaging/14).
To be honest, I think it's time to discontinue this list. But that's for others to decide.
Paul
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