Mailman 3 February 2014 - docs

[issue19175] Erroneous reference to "integer" in format string grammar
by David Chambers May 17, 2019

May 17, 2019

New submission from David Chambers: I first raised this issue on Stack Overflow: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19203194 The [replacement field grammar][1] states that an [integer][2] is a valid field_name, but this is inaccurate: >>> '{0}'.format('zero') 'zero' >>> '{0x0}.format('zero') KeyError: '0x0' >>> '{0o0}.format('zero') KeyError: '0o0' >>> '{0b0}.format('zero') KeyError: '0b0' This [comment][3] by Eric Smith suggests that the above is the intended behaviour: > get_integer uses the narrowest possible definition for integer indexes, > in order to pass all other strings to mappings. The documentation should be updated to match the actual behaviour. abarnert on Stack Overflow suggested the following change: -arg_name ::= [identifier | integer] +arg_name ::= [identifier | digit+] [1]: http://docs.python.org/2/library/string.html#format-string-syntax [2]: http://docs.python.org/2/reference/lexical_analysis.html#grammar-token-inte… [3]: http://bugs.python.org/issue8985#msg107705 ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 199024 nosy: davidchambers, docs@python priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Erroneous reference to "integer" in format string grammar versions: Python 2.6, Python 2.7, Python 3.1, Python 3.2, Python 3.3, Python 3.4 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue19175> _______________________________________

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[issue18478] Class bodies: when does a name become local?
by Terry J. Reedy May 14, 2019

May 14, 2019

New submission from Terry J. Reedy: http://docs.python.org/3/reference/executionmodel.html#naming-and-binding says "The following are blocks: ... a class definition." and "If a name binding operation occurs anywhere within a code block, all uses of the name within the block are treated as references to the current block. This can lead to errors when a name is used within a block before it is bound. ..." This is definitely true for functions, but not for classes: foo = 'bar' class C: foo = foo print(C().foo) # bar This is the same for 3.3 and 2.7 with and without '(object)' added. Unless the code is considered to be buggy (probably since forever), the doc should be modified to change 'code block' to 'function code block' or maybe 'module or function code block'. (At near as I can think, the statement is true for modules, but only because globals() == locals(), so that part of the issue does not arise.) ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 193205 nosy: docs@python, terry.reedy priority: normal severity: normal stage: needs patch status: open title: Class bodies: when does a name become local? type: behavior versions: Python 2.7, Python 3.3, Python 3.4 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue18478> _______________________________________

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[issue13286] PEP 3151 breaks backward compatibility: it should be documented
by STINNER Victor May 13, 2019

May 13, 2019

New submission from STINNER Victor <victor.stinner(a)haypocalc.com>: The following example works on Python 2.7 and 3.2, but fails on Python 3.3: ----------- import errno import os try: os.rmdir("testdir") except: pass os.mkdir("testdir") try: try: os.mkdir("testdir") except IOError as exc: # If can't get proper access, then just forget about writing # the data. if exc.errno == errno.EACCES: pass else: raise except OSError as exc: # Probably another Python process already created the dir. if exc.errno == errno.EEXIST: pass else: raise except Exception: print("PEP 3151 broke backward compatibility on such pattern!") ----------- I noticed the problem while reading the changeset e4d44c2e8e81. ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 146562 nosy: docs@python, flox, haypo, pitrou priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: PEP 3151 breaks backward compatibility: it should be documented versions: Python 3.3 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue13286> _______________________________________

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[issue10536] Enhancements to gettext docs
by Éric Araujo May 9, 2019

May 9, 2019

New submission from Éric Araujo <merwok(a)netwok.org>: A patch made for #2504 revealed a bug in gettext.rst, and I’ve found a number of other things to change in the file. This is the first patch of a series of two or three. Barry, as the original author of the module and doc, I’d like your opinion on points 3, a, and b particularly. Patch is also uploaded to Rietveld for greater convenience: http://codereview.appspot.com/3333042/ (upload.py rocks) Summary: 1) Markup: Use modern class/method directives combo (yay DRY). Mark up variable parts in :file: constructs (e.g. :file:`{domain}.mo` will cause the HTML output to use var to indicate replaceable text). Also change some ``gettext`` to :program:`gettext` for consistency. 2) Fix a typo in lngettext doc (originally included in patch by Franz Glasner for #2504). 3) I had started to remove information about private attributes (_info, _charset), advertising public getter methods instead. Then I read the description of NullTranslations and realized the information was needed for subclasses. I’ve reverted my removals, but I still think the private attributes should be listed in a specific section for people writing subclasses and not in the rest of the text. If you’re okay, I’ll make a second patch. 4) Assorted wording changes, missing periods and hyphens, and other very small touch-ups: Turned a broken bare link into a working link with nice text; used the with statement in an example (we all love the with statement!); used two spaces after periods throughout (hello Fred Drake). Final note: lines have not been rewrapped, for diff clarity. When I commit part or all of this patch, I’ll make another commit to rewrap. Not addressed: a) The current docs is currently POSIX-specific. b) The docs take great care to explain that Unicode strings will be returned in different places, but this should not be so accented in 3.x docs IMO. I would just put a note somewhere near the top that all strings are str and remove the redundant sentences. Following that line of thought, I could group all l*gettext variants at the end of the list of methods, explaining that regular usage should just be happy with str objects and that l*gettext are available if people really want bytes. c) The file uses “built-in namespace” and “builtins namespace”, sometimes in neighbor paragraphs. :mod:`builtins` is not used, even in explanations of the install function/method. I don’t know if I should change that. d) Some capitalization patterns look strange to me: I have seen “I18N” and “L10N” in upper case nowhere else. Similarly, lower-case “id” looks stranger than “ID”. The latter is used for example in official GNU gettext docs. Am I going into foolish consistency territory or not? Thanks in advance for reviews and opinions. ---------- assignee: eric.araujo components: Documentation files: gettext-docs-1.diff keywords: needs review, patch messages: 122420 nosy: barry, docs@python, eric.araujo priority: normal severity: normal stage: patch review status: open title: Enhancements to gettext docs versions: Python 2.7, Python 3.1, Python 3.2 Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file19819/gettext-docs-1.diff _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue10536> _______________________________________

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[issue12188] PEP 7, C style: add ++ policy and explanation
by Terry J. Reedy May 9, 2019

May 9, 2019

New submission from Terry J. Reedy <tjreedy(a)udel.edu>: In response to a discussion of a patch removing 'useless' post-increments, (which issue has apparently come up before) Guido posted "> Sorry to butt in here, but I agree with Eric that it was better > before. There is a common idiom, *pointer++ =<something>, and > whenever you see that you know that you are appending something to an > output buffer. Perhaps the most important idea here is that this > maintains the *invariant* "pointer points just after the last thing in > the buffer". Always maintaining the invariant is better than trying to > micro-optimize things so as to avoid updating dead values. The > compiler is better at that." A condensed version of the above added to PEP 7 would help new developers see the usage as local idiom rather than style bug. ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 136991 nosy: docs@python, terry.reedy priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: PEP 7, C style: add ++ policy and explanation _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue12188> _______________________________________

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[issue20709] os.utime(path_to_directory): wrong documentation for Windows.
by Jan-Philip Gehrcke May 7, 2019

May 7, 2019

New submission from Jan-Philip Gehrcke: The os.utime() docs for Python 2 (http://docs.python.org/2/library/os.html#os.utime) and 3 (http://docs.python.org/3/library/os.html#os.utime) both contain the sentence "Whether a directory can be given for path depends on whether the operating system implements directories as files (for example, *Windows does not*)" "Windoes does not" is wrong. CPython 2.7 on Windows 7: >>> os.utime(".", (100, 100)) >>> os.stat(".").st_mtime 100.0 We should - either name a specific system for which this does not work - or remove this example. Windows XP and newer support this operation via SetFileTime (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms724933%28v=vs.85%…): "Sets the date and time that the specified file or directory was created, last accessed, or last modified." I have grepped myself through a couple of CPython source trees and found posixmodule.c: if (!SetFileTime(hFile, NULL, &atime, &mtime) in 2.5, 2.6, 2.7. I guess the statement comes from 2.4 times, where `SetFileTime` only appears in `PC/bdist_wininst/extract.c`. So, do we just remove the hint or does someone have an example at hand for which combination of Python and platform this does not work for directories? Once we have a decision, I will be happy to provide the mini patch. ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 211760 nosy: docs@python, jgehrcke priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: os.utime(path_to_directory): wrong documentation for Windows. versions: Python 2.7, Python 3.1, Python 3.2, Python 3.3, Python 3.4, Python 3.5 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue20709> _______________________________________

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[issue11001] Various obvious errors in cookies documentation
by Luke Plant May 7, 2019

May 7, 2019

New submission from Luke Plant <L.Plant.98(a)cantab.net>: Docs for SimpleCookie, BaseCookie.value_encode and BaseCookie.value_decode are obviously incorrect. Attempt at patch attached. The error has existed in every Python version I've seen, I've tagged the ones I believe can receive fixes, sorry if I've made a mistake. Thanks. ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation files: http_cookies_doc_corrections.diff keywords: patch messages: 126962 nosy: docs@python, spookylukey priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Various obvious errors in cookies documentation versions: Python 2.7, Python 3.1, Python 3.2 Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file20507/http_cookies_doc_corrections.diff _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue11001> _______________________________________

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[issue18675] Daemon Threads can seg fault
by Thomas Guettler April 27, 2019

April 27, 2019

New submission from Thomas Guettler: This is a documentation bug: Since #1856 is not solved for Python2, it needs to be documented. Daemon Threads on Python2 can seg fault. Work arounds: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18098475/detect-interpreter-shut-down-in… ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 194601 nosy: docs@python, guettli priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Daemon Threads can seg fault versions: Python 2.6, Python 2.7 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue18675> _______________________________________

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[issue10789] Lock.acquire documentation is misleading
by Jyrki Pulliainen April 26, 2019

April 26, 2019

New submission from Jyrki Pulliainen <jyrki(a)dywypi.org>: In threading module, the Lock.acquire documentation is misleading. The signature suggests that the blocking can be given as a keyword argument but that would lead to an TypeError, as thread.lock.acquire does not accept keyword arguments. The signature in documentation should be formatted as in thread.lock.acquire. ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 124861 nosy: Jyrki.Pulliainen, docs@python priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Lock.acquire documentation is misleading versions: Python 2.7, Python 3.1 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue10789> _______________________________________

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[issue17924] Deprecate stat.S_IF* integer constants
by Christian Heimes April 26, 2019

April 26, 2019

New submission from Christian Heimes: Related to #11016 I like to deprecate the S_IF* constants in favor of the S_IS*() functions. rationals: http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/basedefs/sys_stat.h.html No new S_IFMT symbolic names for the file type values of mode_t will be defined by POSIX.1-2008; if new file types are required, they will only be testable through S_ISxx() or S_TYPEISxxx() macros instead. ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation, Library (Lib) messages: 188641 nosy: christian.heimes, docs@python priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Deprecate stat.S_IF* integer constants type: behavior versions: Python 3.4 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue17924> _______________________________________

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