Mailman 3 October 2015 - docs

[issue19438] Where is NoneType in Python 3?
by mpb Oct. 21, 2020

Oct. 21, 2020

New submission from mpb: types.NoneType seems to have disappeared in Python 3. This is probably intentional, but I cannot figure out how to test if a variable is of type NoneType in Python 3. Specifically, I want to write: assert type (v) in ( bytes, types.NoneType ) Yes, I could write: assert v is None or type (v) is bytes But the first assert statement is easier to read (IMO). Here are links to various Python 3 documentation about None: [1] http://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#index-2 [2] http://docs.python.org/3/library/constants.html#None Link [2] says: "None The sole value of the type NoneType." However, NoneType is not listed in the Python 3 documentation index. (As compared with the Python 2 index, where NoneType is listed.) [3] http://docs.python.org/3/library/types.html If NoneType is gone in Python 3, mention of NoneType should probably be removed from link [2]. If NoneType is present in Python 3, the docs (presumably at least one of the above links, and hopefully also the index) should tell me how to use it. Here is another link: [4] http://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#bltin-type-objects "The standard module types defines names for all standard built-in types." (Except <class 'NoneType'> ???) None is a built-in constant. It has a type. If None's type is not considered to be a "standard built-in type", then IMO this is surprising(!!) and should be documented somewhere (for example, at link [4], and possibly elsewhere as well.) Thanks! ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 201666 nosy: docs@python, mpb priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Where is NoneType in Python 3? versions: Python 3.3 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue19438> _______________________________________

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[issue23984] Documentation error: Descriptors
by bjonnh Oct. 8, 2020

Oct. 8, 2020

New submission from bjonnh: in https://docs.python.org/3.5/howto/descriptor.html#static-methods-and-class-… (same problem in all python 3.x documentations) There is this example where the return of f function is printed and there is already a print in the function: """ >>> class E(object): def f(x): print(x) f = staticmethod(f) >>> print(E.f(3)) 3 >>> print(E().f(3)) 3 """ It should probably be: """ def f(x): return(x) """ or """ >> E.f(3) 3 >> E().f(3) """ ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 241312 nosy: bjonnh, docs@python priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Documentation error: Descriptors type: enhancement versions: Python 3.2, Python 3.3, Python 3.4, Python 3.5, Python 3.6 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue23984> _______________________________________

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[issue24757] Installing Py on Windows: Need to restart or logout for path to be added
by John Palermo Sept. 24, 2020

Sept. 24, 2020

New submission from John Palermo: Something I suppose many new users could stumble over: After installing Python and trying out "pip" or "python" on the command line nothing is found. You have to re-start Windows or re-log into your account. I suggest adding this information to the documentation here https://docs.python.org/2/using/windows.html#installing-python and also adding it to the Windows installer description for the "add Python to your path" option. ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 247688 nosy: John Palermo, docs@python priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Installing Py on Windows: Need to restart or logout for path to be added type: enhancement versions: Python 2.7 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue24757> _______________________________________

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[issue18280] Documentation is too personalized
by Serhiy Storchaka Sept. 19, 2020

Sept. 19, 2020

New submission from Serhiy Storchaka: Some documentation files contain a number of I/my/me. Looks like they grew from personal modules and personal articles. Perhaps the official documentation needs more depersonalized style. Here is full list of such files: Doc/c-api/exceptions.rst Doc/c-api/long.rst Doc/distutils/builtdist.rst Doc/extending/extending.rst Doc/extending/windows.rst Doc/howto/argparse.rst Doc/howto/curses.rst Doc/howto/functional.rst Doc/howto/regex.rst Doc/howto/sockets.rst Doc/howto/urllib2.rst Doc/install/index.rst Doc/library/audioop.rst Doc/library/ctypes.rst Doc/library/doctest.rst Doc/library/heapq.rst Doc/library/numbers.rst Doc/library/ossaudiodev.rst Doc/library/tk.rst Doc/library/unittest.mock-examples.rst Doc/library/unittest.mock.rst Doc/reference/introduction.rst Doc/tutorial/classes.rst The list doesn't include FAQs where it may be appropriate and whatsnew files. Andrew Kuchling recently has fixed Doc/howto/unicode.rst for this issue (as part of issue4153). ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 191636 nosy: akuchling, docs@python, eric.araujo, ezio.melotti, georg.brandl, serhiy.storchaka priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Documentation is too personalized versions: Python 2.7, Python 3.3, Python 3.4 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue18280> _______________________________________

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[issue25467] Put “deprecated” warnings first
by Tony R. Sept. 19, 2020

Sept. 19, 2020

New submission from Tony R.: Python has wonderful, detailed documentation. I love it! Unfortunately, I have often found myself reading the otherwise-excellent documentation on a class/function/whatever, only to find out at the END of my reading that it is deprecated. This is frustrating, and counter-intuitive. If something is deprecated, I want to know it before I read any further. I have attached a patch with the relevant changes. I hope it helps! ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation files: 0001-Move-deprecated-blocks-to-the-beginning-of-their-doc.patch keywords: patch messages: 253391 nosy: Tony R., docs@python priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Put “deprecated” warnings first type: enhancement Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file40851/0001-Move-deprecated-blocks-to-the-beginni… _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue25467> _______________________________________

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[issue13828] Further improve casefold documentation
by Jim Jewett Aug. 24, 2020

Aug. 24, 2020

New submission from Jim Jewett <jimjjewett(a)gmail.com>: > http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/0b5ce36a7a24 > changeset: 74515:0b5ce36a7a24 > + Casefolding is similar to lowercasing but more aggressive because it is > + intended to remove all case distinctions in a string. For example, the German > + lowercase letter ``'ß'`` is equivalent to ``"ss"``. Since it is already > + lowercase, :meth:`lower` would do nothing to ``'ß'``; :meth:`casefold` > + converts it to ``"ss"``. Perhaps add the recommendation to canonicalize as well. A complete, but possibly too long, try is below: Casefolding is similar to lowercasing but more aggressive because it is intended to remove all case distinctions in a string. For example, the German lowercase letter ``'ß'`` is equivalent to ``"ss"``. Since it is already lowercase, :meth:`lower` would do nothing to ``'ß'``; :meth:`casefold` converts it to ``"ss"``. Note that most case-insensitive matches should also match compatibility equivalent characters. The casefolding algorithm is described in section 3.13 of the Unicode Standard. Per D146, a compatibility caseless match can be achieved by from unicodedata import normalize def caseless_compat(string): nfd_string = normalize("NFD", string) nfkd1_string = normalize("NFKD", nfd_string.casefold()) return normalize("NFKD", nfkd1_string.casefold()) ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 151644 nosy: Jim.Jewett, benjamin.peterson, docs@python priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Further improve casefold documentation versions: Python 3.3 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue13828> _______________________________________

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[issue23802] patch: __deepcopy__ memo dict argument usage
by Daniel Shahaf Aug. 18, 2020

Aug. 18, 2020

New submission from Daniel Shahaf: In the 'copy' module documentation, it wasn't fully clear to me how __deepcopy__ implementations should treat the memo dict argument. The attached patch clarifies that __deepcopy__ implementations should treat the memo dict argument as an opaque type. ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation files: opaque.diff keywords: patch messages: 239473 nosy: danielsh, docs@python priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: patch: __deepcopy__ memo dict argument usage type: enhancement Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file38723/opaque.diff _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue23802> _______________________________________

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[issue21333] Document recommended exception for objects that shouldn't be pickled
by Stefan Schwarzer July 5, 2020

July 5, 2020

New submission from Stefan Schwarzer: I recently was confused whether to raise a `PicklingError` or `TypeError` in `__getstate__` if objects of my class can't and shouldn't be pickled. [1] Terry Reedy advised I should use `TypeError`. [2] I wonder if the `pickle` module documention should explicitly recommend using `TypeError` if a class wants to say that its objects can't be pickled. What do you think? [1] https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2014-April/670987.html [2] https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2014-April/671002.html ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 217054 nosy: docs@python, sschwarzer priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Document recommended exception for objects that shouldn't be pickled type: enhancement versions: Python 3.5 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue21333> _______________________________________

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[issue17805] No such class: multiprocessing.pool.AsyncResult
by Takafumi Arakaki July 3, 2020

July 3, 2020

New submission from Takafumi Arakaki: Document mentions AsyncResult but there is no such class. http://docs.python.org/2/library/multiprocessing.html#multiprocessing.pool.… You can check it by simply running: python -c 'from multiprocessing.pool import AsyncResult' I think it means ApplyResult so I made a patch (attached). Note that there managers.py also uses name 'AsyncResult': % hg grep AsyncResult Doc/library/multiprocessing.rst:83232:.. class:: AsyncResult Lib/multiprocessing/managers.py:81039: 'apply_async': 'AsyncResult', Lib/multiprocessing/managers.py:81039: 'map_async': 'AsyncResult', Lib/multiprocessing/managers.py:81039: 'starmap_async': 'AsyncResult', Lib/multiprocessing/managers.py:81039:SyncManager.register('AsyncResult', create_method=False) Probably renaming them would be better? ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation files: ApplyResult.patch keywords: patch messages: 187466 nosy: docs@python, tkf priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: No such class: multiprocessing.pool.AsyncResult versions: Python 2.6, Python 2.7, Python 3.1, Python 3.2, Python 3.3, Python 3.4, Python 3.5 Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file29954/ApplyResult.patch _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue17805> _______________________________________

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[issue23427] Python should expose command when invoked with -c
by Jan-Philip Gehrcke June 29, 2020

June 29, 2020

New submission from Jan-Philip Gehrcke: When Python is invoked with the `-c command` switch, the command string does not get exposed in sys.argv: $ python -c "import sys; print(sys.argv)" ['-c'] $ python -c "import sys; print(sys.argv)" arg1 ['-c', 'arg1'] The command string does not get exposed anywhere, AFAIK, so it is inaccessible from within Python programs. There might be application scenarios in which it is useful to access the command string, such as for debugging purposes. One scenario is when a Python session should be able to "re-spawn" itself in a subprocess (I came across this question on StackOverflow: http://stackoverflow.com/q/28412903/145400) I propose to make the command string accessible. If you agree that it might make sense, the question is *how/where* to expose it. One possible way is to retain it in sys.argv, as in this example: $ python -c "import sys; print(sys.argv)" "arg1" ['-c', 'import sys; print(sys.argv)', 'arg1'] The current sys.argv docs say > If the command was executed using the -c command line option to > the interpreter, argv[0] is set to the string '-c'. This sentence could then be adjusted to "[...], argv[0] is set to the string '-c', and argv[1] contains the command." This method breaks existing applications that are started with the -c method and that consume command line arguments in a sys.argv[1:] fashion. The tests in Lib/test/test_cmd_line.py all pass, however. A second method would be to change sys.argv[0] from '-c' to '-c command'. This would break existing applications that check for sys.argv[0] == 'c'. A third method would be to leave sys.argv as it is, and expose the command with a new attribute in the sys module. I have attached a patch for variant 1 (passes all tests in Lib/test/test_cmd_line.py), to demonstrate which code is affected: the translation from the "real" argv to sys' argv is triggered in Modules/main.c. The patch does not change behavior of '-m' (it's funny, however, that the current version of main.c at first replaces the module string with '-m', whereas the runpy module later on replaces '-m' with the path to the module file anyway.). As a side node, I figure that the sys.argv documentation should be adjusted to properly reflect the -m behavior, which is: $ ./python -m testmodule foo testmodule sys.argv: ['/data/local/pythondev/pythontip/cpython/testmodule.py', 'foo'] Let me hear your comments, and I am willing to work on code and doc patches, thanks! ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation, Interpreter Core files: sys_argv_cmd.patch keywords: patch messages: 235633 nosy: docs@python, georg.brandl, haypo, jgehrcke, pitrou priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Python should expose command when invoked with -c type: enhancement versions: Python 3.5, Python 3.6 Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file38065/sys_argv_cmd.patch _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue23427> _______________________________________

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