Mailman 3 May 2019 - docs

[issue9538] Replace confusing pseudoname 'object' in special methods section.
by Terry J. Reedy Nov. 17, 2020

Nov. 17, 2020

New submission from Terry J. Reedy <tjreedy(a)udel.edu>: In 3.3. Special method names, 'object' is used as a pseudo class name to prefix all the special method entries. This conflicts with the usual two Python meanings. 1. 'object' is the name of a specific class. So the entry for object.__getattribute__(self, name) says to avoid circularity by calling object.__getattribute__(self, name), which looks circular and requires a bit a mental work by the reader to properly understand. Ditto for object.__setattr__(self, name, value) calling object.__setattr__(self, name, value) 2. Non-specifically, 'object' is usually understood to mean any Python object, not just a class. But the signatures as written require that 'object' specifically be a class and 'object' does not convey that. So for both reasons, I propose that the pseudoname 'object' be replaces with 'class' or 'someclass' ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 113194 nosy: docs@python, georg.brandl, terry.reedy priority: normal severity: normal stage: needs patch status: open title: Replace confusing pseudoname 'object' in special methods section. versions: Python 3.2 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue9538> _______________________________________

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[issue13561] os.listdir documentation should mention surrogateescape
by Michael Foord Nov. 16, 2020

Nov. 16, 2020

New submission from Michael Foord <michael(a)voidspace.org.uk>: Where os.listdir encounters undecodable bytes from the filesystem it uses the surrogateescape handler. As the resulting strings are invalid they can't be encoded without an errorhandler, and so can't be printed (for example). This should be documented. ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 149070 nosy: docs@python, michael.foord priority: normal severity: normal stage: needs patch status: open title: os.listdir documentation should mention surrogateescape versions: Python 3.3 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue13561> _______________________________________

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[issue14338] urllib2 HowTo for overriding post/3xx behavior.
by beeNuts Nov. 15, 2020

Nov. 15, 2020

New submission from beeNuts <jeff.adams(a)linux.com>: Issue #14144, with the title "urllib2 HTTPRedirectHandler not forwarding POST data in redirect" was recently closed with these comments: "This could be cookbook recipe style example, if it's utility value is high. I am closing this issue as I feel that the requirement may not be addressed by a change. If there is patch for HowTo, we can tackle that in another issue. Thank you for contribution." The decision that documents on this issue were preferable to a patch seems like a fair compromise, especially considering that the RFC is decidedly ambiguous.I was wondering if the HowTo would be forthcoming? It seems to me that the value/utility would certainly be high. I'd submit it myself but I'm so new to Python that I don't trust my ability to do it correctly. It's something I would find highly useful, though. ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 156080 nosy: beerNuts, docs@python priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: urllib2 HowTo for overriding post/3xx behavior. versions: Python 3.3 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue14338> _______________________________________

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[issue17437] Difference between open and codecs.open
by Giampaolo Rodola' Nov. 15, 2020

Nov. 15, 2020

New submission from Giampaolo Rodola': In Python 2 the distinction between open() and codes.open() was clear because 'encoding' and 'errors' args were provided by codecs.open only. This is no longer the case in Python 3 since both args are provided also by open(). I'm probably missing something but regardless I think codecs.open doc [1] should be more clear as to when and why (say) codecs.open(file, encoding='utf8', errors='ignore') should be preferred over open(file, encoding='utf8', errors='ignore'). [1] http://docs.python.org/3/library/codecs.html#codecs.open ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 184303 nosy: docs@python, ezio.melotti, giampaolo.rodola priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Difference between open and codecs.open versions: Python 3.2, Python 3.3, Python 3.4 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue17437> _______________________________________

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[issue27119] `compile` doesn't compile into an AST object as specified
by Franklin? Lee Nov. 15, 2020

Nov. 15, 2020

New submission from Franklin? Lee: >From `compile`'s doc: "Compile the source into a code or AST object." The docs don't say how to compile into an AST object with `compile`, though. As it says later: "If you want to parse Python code into its AST representation, see ast.parse()." I checked 3.4-3.2, 3.0, 2.7, and 2.6. Versions before 3.4, and version 2.6, are missing the `ast.parse` line, but still have the first line. ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 266311 nosy: docs@python, leewz priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: `compile` doesn't compile into an AST object as specified type: behavior versions: Python 2.7, Python 3.2, Python 3.3, Python 3.4, Python 3.5, Python 3.6 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue27119> _______________________________________

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[issue10709] Misc/AIX-NOTES needs updating
by Antoine Pitrou Nov. 11, 2020

Nov. 11, 2020

New submission from Antoine Pitrou <pitrou(a)free.fr>: Sébastien, would you like to provide an updated version of that file? The current contents look hopelessly outdated. ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 124024 nosy: docs@python, pitrou, sable priority: normal severity: normal stage: needs patch status: open title: Misc/AIX-NOTES needs updating versions: Python 2.7, Python 3.1, Python 3.2 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue10709> _______________________________________

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[issue15034] tutorial should use best practices in user defined execeptions section
by R. David Murray Nov. 10, 2020

Nov. 10, 2020

New submission from R. David Murray <rdmurray(a)bitdance.com>: And I wish I knew what those were. ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 162513 nosy: docs@python, r.david.murray priority: normal severity: normal stage: needs patch status: open title: tutorial should use best practices in user defined execeptions section type: behavior versions: Python 2.7, Python 3.2, Python 3.3 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue15034> _______________________________________

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[issue34365] datetime's documentation refers to "comparison [...] falling back to the default scheme of comparing object addresses"
by Kevin Norris Nov. 10, 2020

Nov. 10, 2020

New submission from Kevin Norris <nykevin.norris(a)gmail.com>: The 3.x datetime documentation contains the following footnote: > In other words, date1 < date2 if and only if date1.toordinal() < date2.toordinal(). In order to stop comparison from falling back to the default scheme of comparing object addresses, date comparison normally raises TypeError if the other comparand isn’t also a date object. However, NotImplemented is returned instead if the other comparand has a timetuple() attribute. This hook gives other kinds of date objects a chance at implementing mixed-type comparison. If not, when a date object is compared to an object of a different type, TypeError is raised unless the comparison is == or !=. The latter cases return False or True, respectively. But in 3.x, comparison no longer falls back to comparing object addresses. Also, some of the comments on issue 8005 seem to suggest that this footnote is not actually true in 3.x (aside from the first sentence, of course). But regardless, the footnote should not refer to a long dead interpreter behavior as if it were still around. ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 323314 nosy: Kevin.Norris, docs@python priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: datetime's documentation refers to "comparison [...] falling back to the default scheme of comparing object addresses" versions: Python 3.4, Python 3.5, Python 3.6, Python 3.7, Python 3.8 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <https://bugs.python.org/issue34365> _______________________________________

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[issue25006] List pybind11 binding generator
by Wenzel Jakob Nov. 8, 2020

Nov. 8, 2020

New submission from Wenzel Jakob: Hi, over the last few months, I've been developing a library ("pybind11") for creating Python bindings of C++ code. It is similar in spirit to Boost.Python but uses a very different minimalist approach. It would be fantastic to get this library listed here: https://docs.python.org/3/faq/extending.html The purpose of this ticket is that somebody with permissions might add it to this page. pybind11 is here: https://github.com/wjakob/pybind11 Please let me know if you need any additional information. Thank you, Wenzel ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 249865 nosy: docs@python, wenzel priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: List pybind11 binding generator type: enhancement versions: Python 2.7, Python 3.2, Python 3.3, Python 3.4, Python 3.5, Python 3.6 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue25006> _______________________________________

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[issue10529] Write argparse i18n howto
by Éric Araujo Nov. 7, 2020

Nov. 7, 2020

New submission from Éric Araujo <merwok(a)netwok.org>: argparse helpfully makes its messages with gettext.gettext. The docs should explain how to benefit from that in one’s program. ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 122358 nosy: bethard, docs@python, eric.araujo priority: normal severity: normal stage: needs patch status: open title: Write argparse i18n howto type: feature request versions: Python 3.2 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue10529> _______________________________________

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