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[issue29829] Documentation lacks clear warning of subprocess issue with pythonw
by Steve Barnes 04 Mar '21

04 Mar '21

New submission from Steve Barnes: When running under pythonw, or pyinstaller with the -w flag, modules that use subprocess calls such as popen, run, etc. will crash if the default `stdout=None, stderr=None` behaviour is used rather than PIPE. This is an obscure problem which is very hard to debug yet there is no warning in the documentation on this. I would like to suggest adding a :warning:`stdout=None, stderr=None` must not be used in any of the calls in this module when running under pythonw due to the lack of sys.stdout & sys.stderr in that case. Please use `stdout=PIPE, stderr=PIPE` instead. A patch against the default branch would be: diff -r 4243df51fe43 Doc/library/subprocess.rst --- a/Doc/library/subprocess.rst Fri Feb 10 14:19:36 2017 +0100 +++ b/Doc/library/subprocess.rst Thu Mar 16 16:56:24 2017 +0000 @@ -33,6 +33,13 @@ function for all use cases it can handle. For more advanced use cases, the underlying :class:`Popen` interface can be used directly. +.. warning:: Do not use default parameters on Windows with pythonw. + + As pythonw deletes `sys.stdout` & `sys.stderr` the use of the default + parameters, `stdout=None, stderr=None,`, which defaults to being + `stdout=sys.stdout, stderr=sys.stderr,` may cause unexpected crashes + it is recommended to use `stdout=PIPE, stderr=PIPE,` instead. + The :func:`run` function was added in Python 3.5; if you need to retain compatibility with older versions, see the :ref:`call-function-trio` section. ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 289722 nosy: Steve Barnes, docs@python priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Documentation lacks clear warning of subprocess issue with pythonw type: behavior versions: Python 2.7, Python 3.6, Python 3.7 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue29829> _______________________________________

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[issue12594] Docs for py3k still refer to "MacPython 2.5 folder"
by Christoph Schindler 04 Mar '21

04 Mar '21

New submission from Christoph Schindler <hop(a)30hopsmax.at>: In http://docs.python.org/py3k/using/mac.html#getting-and-installing-macpython and http://docs.python.org/py3k/using/mac.html#distributing-python-applications… . ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 140744 nosy: docs@python, hop priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Docs for py3k still refer to "MacPython 2.5 folder" versions: Python 3.1, Python 3.2 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue12594> _______________________________________

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[issue39199] Improve the AST documentation
by Pablo Galindo Salgado 03 Mar '21

03 Mar '21

New submission from Pablo Galindo Salgado <pablogsal(a)gmail.com>: The AST docs need some love as they can be a bit obscure to someone new to the module. Improvements to be considered in this issue: * Document all available nodes (as of 3.8 and not deprecated ones). This helps to know what classes to consider when implementing methods for the visitors. * Add some short practical examples for the visitors: one to query an AST and another to modify it. ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 359235 nosy: docs@python, pablogsal priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Improve the AST documentation versions: Python 3.9 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <https://bugs.python.org/issue39199> _______________________________________

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[issue24650] Error in yield expression documentation
by swanson 27 Feb '21

27 Feb '21

New submission from swanson: https://docs.python.org/3/reference/expressions.html in 6.2.9. Yield expressions end of 1st paragraph: "Using a yield expression in a function’s body causes that function to be a generator." NO! As the very next sentence explains, a generator is what's returned by such a function, not the function itself. Basically, it should be sufficient to add the word "function" to the end of that sentence: "... generator function." However, this error does NOT exist in 3.0 to 3.2 - just in 3.3 to 3.6, so I suggest just using the same wording as 3.0 to 3.2: "Using a yield expression in a function definition is sufficient to cause that definition to create a generator function instead of a normal function." ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 246841 nosy: docs@python, swanson priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Error in yield expression documentation versions: Python 3.3, Python 3.4, Python 3.5, Python 3.6 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue24650> _______________________________________

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[issue29045] Outdated C api doc about Windows error
by Xiang Zhang 26 Feb '21

26 Feb '21

New submission from Xiang Zhang: https://docs.python.org/3.7/c-api/exceptions.html#c.PyErr_SetFromWindowsErr… it stills refers to PyErr_SetFromWindowsErrWithFilenameObject but this function doesn't exist since Py3.4. I didn't find when and why it's deleted. And https://docs.python.org/3.4/c-api/exceptions.html#c.PyErr_SetFromWindowsErr raises OSError instead of WindowsError. ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 283814 nosy: docs@python, xiang.zhang priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Outdated C api doc about Windows error versions: Python 3.5, Python 3.6, Python 3.7 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue29045> _______________________________________

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[issue24045] Behavior of large returncodes (sys.exit(nn))
by Ethan Furman 26 Feb '21

26 Feb '21

New submission from Ethan Furman: Not sure if this is a bug, or just One of Those Things: sys.exit(large_value) can wrap around if the value is too large, but this is O/S dependent. linux (ubuntu 14.04) $ python Python 2.7.8 (default, Oct 20 2014, 15:05:29) [GCC 4.9.1] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. --> import sys --> sys.exit(256) $ echo $? 0 $ python Python 2.7.8 (default, Oct 20 2014, 15:05:29) [GCC 4.9.1] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. --> import sys --> sys.exit(257) $ echo $? 1 M$ (Windows 7) > python Python 2.7... --> import sys --> sys.exit(65535) > echo %errorlevel% 65535 > python Python 2.7... --> import sys --> sys.exit(100000) > echo %errorlevel% 100000 Perhaps a minor doc update that talks about return codes and why they might not be exactly what was given to Python? ---------- assignee: docs@python messages: 241903 nosy: docs@python, ethan.furman priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Behavior of large returncodes (sys.exit(nn)) versions: Python 2.7, Python 3.5 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue24045> _______________________________________

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[issue13368] Possible problem in documentation of module subprocess, method send_signal
by Eli Bendersky 24 Feb '21

24 Feb '21

New submission from Eli Bendersky <eliben(a)gmail.com>: docs@ list report by Daniel Dieterle: in the documentation (http://docs.python.org/library/subprocess.html#subprocess.Popen.send_signal) is a bug. CTRL_C_EVENT can not be sent to processes started with a creationflags parameter which includes CREATE_NEW_PROCESS_GROUP. Why can be read in the msdn documentation http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms683155%28v=vs.85%… . A workaround using CTRL_C_EVENT nevertheless is described here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7085604/sending-c-to-python-subprocess-o… -- I do not know why the subprocess.CREATE_NEW_PROCESS_GROUP parameter was introduced. But it is useless for terminating a process with os.kill() in combination with signal.SIGTERM, which corresponds to a CTRL-C-EVENT. A CTRL-C-EVENT is only forwarded to the process if the process group is zero. Therefore the Note in the documentation on Popen.send_signal() is wrong. ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 147272 nosy: docs@python, eli.bendersky priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Possible problem in documentation of module subprocess, method send_signal versions: Python 2.7 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue13368> _______________________________________

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[issue16954] Add docstrings for ElementTree module
by Serhiy Storchaka 21 Feb '21

21 Feb '21

New submission from Serhiy Storchaka: Perhaps almost all Doxygen comments in ElementTree module should be converted to docstrings. ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation, XML messages: 179881 nosy: docs@python, eli.bendersky, serhiy.storchaka priority: normal severity: normal stage: needs patch status: open title: Add docstrings for ElementTree module type: enhancement versions: Python 3.4 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue16954> _______________________________________

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[issue27646] yield from expression can be any iterable
by Terry J. Reedy 21 Feb '21

21 Feb '21

New submission from Terry J. Reedy: https://docs.python.org/3/reference/expressions.html#yield-expressions says "When yield from <expr> is used, it treats the supplied expression as a subiterator. All values produced by that subiterator ...". To me "treats..expression as a subiterator" means that the expression must *be* an iterator, such as returned by iter or calling a generator function. Hence I was surprised upon reading "yield from <non-iterator iterable>" in stdlib code. I confirmed that this usage is correct by trying >>> def g(): yield from (1,2) >>> i = g() >>> next(i), next(i) (1, 2) and then reading the PEP380 Formal Semantics, which begins with "_i = iter(EXPR)". Hence I suggest the following replacement for the quote above: "When yield from <expr> is used, the expression must be an iterable. A subiterator is obtained with iter(<expr>). All values produced by that subiterator ...". Note that 'subiterator' is spelled in the following sentences 'underlying iterable' (which I am not sure I like) and 'sub-iterator' (and 'sub-generator'). I think we should be consistent for at least the two short 'yield from' paragraphs. ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 271577 nosy: docs@python, terry.reedy priority: normal severity: normal stage: patch review status: open title: yield from expression can be any iterable type: behavior versions: Python 3.5, Python 3.6 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue27646> _______________________________________

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[issue42402] Termios module documentation is extremely lacking
by Dan Merillat 19 Feb '21

19 Feb '21

New submission from Dan Merillat <dan.merillat(a)gmail.com>: "The interpretation of the flags and the speeds as well as the indexing in the cc array must be done using the symbolic constants defined in the |termios| module." (termios links to itself) These constants are not listed in the documentation and the termios module is installed as a shared library so you can't read it without going to the source. Furthermore the example in the documentation uses the following example: new = termios.tcgetattr(fd) new[3] = new[3] & ~termios.ECHO # lflags Which is explicitly against the documentation on the same page. This has led to most searches on the net turning up people using magic numbers in places instead of symbolic values. Inserting a list of constants with an extremely brief description would improve the module documentation dramatically. ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 381393 nosy: dan.merillat, docs@python priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Termios module documentation is extremely lacking versions: Python 3.9 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report(a)bugs.python.org> <https://bugs.python.org/issue42402> _______________________________________

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