On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Georg Brandl wrote:

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docs-sig@python.org - non-intuitive development name, but it's documentation development group

Non-intuitive or not, it is a SIG and therefore that name is the right one.

The problem that SIGs is a common name only in some subset of English or American culture. DEV is international. SIG abbreviation should be expanded on entrypoint pages to give new users a safe feeling of understanding without resorting to silly explanations or slang.

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2. rename doc-sig@ to doc-dev@ (or docs-dev@?)

As I said above, this change is not useful.

Whatever it is, I can live with it as long as I am not forced to subscribe to YAML. =) But it is not really an argument. Arguments are either: 1. it is a well established name linked all over the web that people use 2. it is "inconvenient" to bother admins 3. -sig suffix is better than -dev, because ... 3.1. there are not many people subscribed and they would have to resubscribe (bad one) 3.2. people are lazy to remember the new name 3.3. people who actually DO stuff prefer it THIS way (perhaps the only good one)

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3. merge various HTML pages (including mailman) into one/two entrypoint page and allow community update it 4. 3 obviously requires a Wiki page

I agree that the doc-SIG pages are outdated.  I will ask the SIG coordinator what we should do with the old content, and then update the pages accordingly.

That's good. The bad part that it is probably seen by many, but to reports this I am alone.

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5. add web posting interface with OAuth/OpenID support (Google Groups, anything else?) 6. add custom search form for doc development archives and docs (twisted has one for mailman)

Those two are not specific to the docs list(s); you're going to have to ask the postmasters if this is feasible.  (I guess not.)

If search link is possible then search form should be possible too http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python

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(I still don't understand people who don't like web interfaces, but still firing email agent to fill their GUI email form fields that is no different from web-based except that fields are not autofilled using browser cookie).

I don't understand what you mean, sorry.  Mailing lists are called that for a reason.

I mean that ML is not the only way of communication and hybrid systems all already everywhere. Google Groups is one of the most popular. -- anatoly t.