[issue13663] pootle.python.org is outdated.
New submission from INADA Naoki <songofacandy@gmail.com>: I am one of Japanese translate of Python documents. We have done translating Python 2.7 document and will start translating Python 3.2 or 3.3. I want to use sphinx-i18n and pootle to translate. But http://pootle.python.org/ is very outdated. Anyone can update the site? If nobody maintain the site, could I create Python Document project at http://pootle.locamotion.org/ ? ---------- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation messages: 150261 nosy: docs@python, naoki priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: pootle.python.org is outdated. versions: Python 2.7, Python 3.2, Python 3.3, Python 3.4 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report@bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue13663> _______________________________________
Changes by Antoine Pitrou <pitrou@free.fr>: ---------- nosy: +georg.brandl, loewis _______________________________________ Python tracker <report@bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue13663> _______________________________________
Martin v. Löwis <martin@v.loewis.de> added the comment: I'd rather have you maintain poodle.python.org instead of maintaining Python translations off-site. ---------- _______________________________________ Python tracker <report@bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue13663> _______________________________________
Changes by Éric Araujo <merwok@netwok.org>: ---------- nosy: +eric.araujo versions: -Python 2.7, Python 3.2, Python 3.3, Python 3.4 _______________________________________ Python tracker <report@bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue13663> _______________________________________
Éric Araujo <merwok@netwok.org> added the comment: Agreed with Martin. I would be nice to get a statement on the status of pootle.python.org (social aspects like updating and publishing the translations + organization of teams), but Georg seems busy. (This would probably be more at home on a mailing list rather than in the CPython bug tracker.) ---------- _______________________________________ Python tracker <report@bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue13663> _______________________________________
Georg Brandl <georg@python.org> added the comment: I've never really had a hand in pootle.python.org; it was set up by Martin and Robert Lehmann, and Sandro Tosi also wanted to lend a hand... ---------- nosy: +lehmannro, sandro.tosi _______________________________________ Python tracker <report@bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue13663> _______________________________________
Sandro Tosi <sandro.tosi@gmail.com> added the comment: Yeah, I really would like to help with pootle, but it seems we don't have a current status of the thing + a roadmap to where we want to go.
From the top of my head, I think we need at least:
- the current setup of the machine/service - updated packages for pootle + its deps (it should be a debian machine, so I can leverage my DD status to help here) - plan the migration from the current pootle to the updated one - start advertise pootle, which is much better than having a lot of people translating python doc on their own websites instead of a central (official) place - maybe rename the service? ---------- _______________________________________ Python tracker <report@bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue13663> _______________________________________
Martin v. Löwis <martin@v.loewis.de> added the comment: naoki: what is your actual complaint about the installation being outdated? Are you referring to the message catalog (documentation version), or the software? As for the message catalog, I don't think it should be updated too often (only once per Python release), otherwise, translators will have to fight a moving target (which they will have to, anyway, given that the documentation evolves). Whatever updating procedure is performed: preserving the existing translations and the existing accounts is an absolute must. I'm not sure what good renaming the service would do; this sounds like bike shedding. ---------- _______________________________________ Python tracker <report@bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue13663> _______________________________________
INADA Naoki <songofacandy@gmail.com> added the comment: On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Martin v. Löwis <report@bugs.python.org> wrote:
Martin v. Löwis <martin@v.loewis.de> added the comment:
naoki: what is your actual complaint about the installation being outdated? Are you referring to the message catalog (documentation version), or the software?
I need Python 3.2's message catalog. But updating pootle version is also nice to me.
As for the message catalog, I don't think it should be updated too often (only once per Python release), otherwise, translators will have to fight a moving target (which they will have to, anyway, given that the documentation evolves).
I agree with you about already released series (~3.2). I think updating message catalog for beta versions may help releasing new Python's translated document fast. The way to manage multiple series is also needed when Python 3.3 is released. ---------- _______________________________________ Python tracker <report@bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue13663> _______________________________________
Changes by Ezio Melotti <ezio.melotti@gmail.com>: ---------- nosy: +ezio.melotti _______________________________________ Python tracker <report@bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue13663> _______________________________________
Benjamin Peterson added the comment: pootle.python.org has been disabled. ---------- nosy: +benjamin.peterson resolution: -> wont fix status: open -> closed _______________________________________ Python tracker <report@bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue13663> _______________________________________
participants (8)
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Antoine Pitrou -
Benjamin Peterson
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Ezio Melotti
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Georg Brandl
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INADA Naoki
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Martin v. Löwis
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Sandro Tosi
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Éric Araujo