Mailman 3 November 2001 - Edu-sig

Who is teaching Python??
by Nora Wirtschafter 06 Dec '01

06 Dec '01

Dear Colleagues, I am teaching Python at Widener University, Chester, PA, in CSCI 131, an elective science course for non-computer science majors. I am interested in knowing what other colleges, two- or four-year, are using Python as a teaching language. Is Python offered at different levels in the curriculum? Computer Science majors at Widener use C as their beginning language; what language do your CS majors use as a start? I am also interested in what texts you find appropriate (I have developed my own materials.) Thank you for any responses. Nora W. Wirtschafter, Instructor Widener University nww0002(a)mail.widener.edu

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RealTimeBattle and Python
by Robert Rickenbrode II 01 Dec '01

01 Dec '01

Anyone have any experience using RealTimeBattle (http://realtimebattle.sourceforge.net/) with Python? Just a consideration... Robert K. Rickenbrode II rkr_ii(a)yahoo.com

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measuring python...
by Jeffrey Elkner 30 Nov '01

30 Nov '01

Hi All! I'm trying to get together a master's thesis and was hoping to do something related to Python's suitability as a language for teaching programming. I was thinking of comparing Python, C++, and Java solutions to common first year computer science problems in terms of length and readability. Comparing length is not a problem. "Readability" on the other hand is not easy to define in any quantifiable way. I was thinking of trying something like "tokens per line". Any thoughts? Thanks! jeff elkner yorktown high school arlington, va

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Student Assignment Styles
by Bryce Embry 30 Nov '01

30 Nov '01

Howdy, I'm in my first year of teaching computer programming in Python and am developing my material based on the How To Think Like A Computer Scientists book at www.ibiblio.org/obp. I have to confess that I fell into teaching computer programming without any formal training, and I'm learning a lot of the material as we go along (I'm a few steps ahead of the students, but not far). Looking through some of the edu_sig posts, and Timothy Wilson's page at http://www.isd197.org/sibley/cs/icp/, I'm seeing that assigning students a large project seems to be more popular than assigning a number of smaller, more pedantic problems. What is the rationale behind the larger projects as opposed to smaller projects? What are the benefits and drawbacks of asking students to spend a week on one large project instead of that same week on three or four smaller tasks, then giving a large task once a month or so? I've been using what I consider to be smaller projects (my stuff is at http://www.bembry.org/tech/python/index.shtml ) and am wondering if fewer, larger projects would be better for my kids. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bryce Embry --- Geek of All Trades, Master of None --- Margolin Hebrew Academy --- 390 South White Station --- Memphis, TN 38117 --- (901) 682-2409

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Reciprocal Links
by Gloria 26 Nov '01

26 Nov '01

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Levitated Tile
by Jason Cunliffe 16 Nov '01

16 Nov '01

http://www.levitated.net/ ..lovely openSource Flash5 generative art site, well designed interface ./Jason

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print to apache log from cgi script
by Titu Kim 16 Nov '01

16 Nov '01

Hi, How can i output some message apache log files so i can see the progress in cgi script? If i use regular print, cgi prints the content to client browser. Thanks for any suggestion. Regards, Kim Titu __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com

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Teaching students to use CVS
by Timothy Wilson 15 Nov '01

15 Nov '01

Hi everyone, I'm a little more than 1/4 of the way through my Intro. to Comp. Prog. class and we're starting to get into slightly more complicated assignments. (Well maybe we're not quite there yet.) Anyway, I'd like to have a way for my programming teams to collaborate on their code. Has anyone tried teaching beginning comp. prog. students to use CVS? It would be easy enough to drag out an old server and set it up for this purpose. Any hints or experiences that anyone would share? -Tim -- Tim Wilson | Visit Sibley online: | Check out: Henry Sibley HS | http://www.isd197.org | http://www.zope.com W. St. Paul, MN | | http://slashdot.org wilson(a)visi.com | <dtml-var pithy_quote> | http://linux.com

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Re: [Edu-sig] Teaching students to use CVS
by Jason Straw 15 Nov '01

15 Nov '01

They don't seem to have a problem with it... BUT i could never get it to work remotely... so it was never useful to them.. but i had them grabbing programs anon. cvs from sourceforge (pyios.sf.net) Jason On Wed, 2001-11-14 at 21:49, Timothy Wilson wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm a little more than 1/4 of the way through my Intro. to Comp. Prog. class > and we're starting to get into slightly more complicated assignments. (Well > maybe we're not quite there yet.) > > Anyway, I'd like to have a way for my programming teams to collaborate on > their code. Has anyone tried teaching beginning comp. prog. students to use > CVS? It would be easy enough to drag out an old server and set it up for this purpose. > > Any hints or experiences that anyone would share? > > -Tim > > -- > Tim Wilson | Visit Sibley online: | Check out: > Henry Sibley HS | http://www.isd197.org | http://www.zope.com > W. St. Paul, MN | | http://slashdot.org > wilson(a)visi.com | <dtml-var pithy_quote> | http://linux.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Edu-sig mailing list > Edu-sig(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig -- Jason Straw jstraw(a)resample.com jstraw(a)ibiblio.org Yorktown High School Linux Users' Group Meetings Coordinator / yhslug.tux.org Upcoming Meetings! October 5th: LTSP

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Just signed up
by Kirk Bailey 09 Nov '01

09 Nov '01

for the list, I want to learn python and write a few things. Even willing later to help people learn it. Tried banging my poor head against perl for a spell, all I got was camel cooties... -- Respectfully, -Kirk D Bailey (C)2001 Addme! icq #27840081 end My Sites: http://www.howlermonkey.net/ - free REAL email! list service soon! http://www.sacredelectron.org/ - Rants! Spleenvents! http://www.minorfish.org/ - The list server for some of us!

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