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xturtle online via processing.js !?
by Jurgis Pralgauskis 27 Sep '12

27 Sep '12

Hi, I am struggling around with interactive online py tutorials with https://launchpad.net/projects/intro-to-code (ith might become securely sandboxed soon, as pypy made it possible http://blog.sandbox.lt/en/WSGI%20and%20PyPy%20sandbox :) but one more thing is I'd like to let access xturtle functionality online - one possible way could be triggering tkinter to save its canvas to ps, and then convert them with imagemagic and show via web (animated gif or static) - but if pyjamas can render GUI for js (http://www.google.lt/search?&q=pyjamas+python ), mayby there is a way to **translate turtle commands to processing.js analogues** http://ejohn.org/blog/processingjs/ would it be difficult -- how do you think? -- Jurgis Pralgauskis tel: 8-616 77613; jabber: jurgis(a)akl.lt; skype: dz0rdzas; Don't worry, be happy and make things better ;) http://sagemath.visiems.lt

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OO and story problems
by kirby urner 29 Mar '12

29 Mar '12

I've been haunting the math-teach list, as usual, suggesting we take a page from AP computer science and build our math around an interlinked, themed, consistent set of story problems -- rather than making these "meaningless" (deliberately). The opponents in this debate bring up the specter of political manipulation, propaganda, tainted "pure math" with someone's good ideas about applications. My approach to math teaching, as readers here know (some of 'em), is to bake OO into the matrix pretty early, meaning the idea of "math objects" (vectors, polyhedrons, rational numbers) connects to our Pythonic notion of types. Here's some background reading for any wanting to sample the more detailed nuances of this thread (on-going, and for over a decade for sure). http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?threadID=2289577&tstart=0 (most posters long time veterans of this list, with carved out positions) I also take it a step further in that the story problems under consideration often have a strong "off your duff" component, in that your mathematical reasoning translates into physical expenditure of energy. Yes, sounds a lot like summer camp (the "self quantification movement" also syncs up). http://fastwonderblog.com/2011/07/30/crunching-the-numbers-open-source-comm… http://hashtags.foxepractice.com/healthcare-hashtag-analytics.php?hashtag=Q… http://www.4dsolutions.net/presentations/urnermindstorm.pdf Kirby

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Re: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 101, Issue 17
by Marianne McKenna 31 Dec '11

31 Dec '11

I will be out of the office today. If you need immediate help please contact the computer center. Thanks.

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Re: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 101, Issue 16
by Marianne McKenna 30 Dec '11

30 Dec '11

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Re: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 101, Issue 15
by Marianne McKenna 29 Dec '11

29 Dec '11

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Re: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 101, Issue 14
by Marianne McKenna 28 Dec '11

28 Dec '11

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Re: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 101, Issue 13
by Marianne McKenna 27 Dec '11

27 Dec '11

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Re: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 101, Issue 12
by Marianne McKenna 26 Dec '11

26 Dec '11

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Re: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 101, Issue 11
by Marianne McKenna 25 Dec '11

25 Dec '11

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Re: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 101, Issue 10
by Guido Carballo-Guerrero 24 Dec '11

24 Dec '11

Kirby; I'll be waiting for this book. Sounds very interesting. Guido On Dec 24, 2011, at 9:00 AM, edu-sig-request(a)python.org wrote: > Send Edu-sig mailing list submissions to > edu-sig(a)python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > edu-sig-request(a)python.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > edu-sig-owner(a)python.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Edu-sig digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. a Python title I'd like to see.... (idle fantasy) (kirby urner) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 22:27:19 -0800 > From: kirby urner <kirby.urner(a)gmail.com> > To: edu-sig(a)python.org > Subject: [Edu-sig] a Python title I'd like to see.... (idle fantasy) > Message-ID: > <CAPJgG3S868LXuso94Sjh6zkzZYUDT_hGk_UE3pp3A8bvbx83rg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > My idea of good Python lore would be an almost book length discussion, > at least, of the implementation of the "list" data structure. > > Go through the C in great detail, using this as an excuse to teach C > in the context of it's supporting a higher language, looking ahead for > your readers, knowing some of them will be heading off into C#, Java > and PyPy implementations, at least. Or have come from there. > > Talk about what testing looks like, when working on Python, and where > can I get the tests, how might I set up shop as a developer (of Python > and other things). > > One way is to read / compile / test the source code for Python itself. > That's a curriculum I've proposed several times and I'm sure many > have thought of besides me: cut your teeth learning Python and then > descend a level to a system language and begin studying the > implementation of Python in that language. > > You'll start to appreciate Python in ways you never have, and you'll > start learning what nitty gritty memory allocation looks like, and > "declarative languages" (not the technical term -- compile-time > checked, type audited, the whole nine yards). > > The thing is, you want your readers to be optionally following along, > doing their thing at the command line (fire up that gcc), meaning what > was "a book" is now this constellation of artifacts including > different versions of lessons depending on what kind of platform you > have. > > Compiling Python on Windows is not only doable, it's highly > successful, but exactly how is it done? Some readers would avidly > branch into that discussion, while others staying on a Mac (the > original Python was developed on a Lisa). > > You've been studying the list type, as a data structure, have delved > into the history, of linked lists, bubble sorts, clever algorithms, a > kinds of class computer science. Lots of names fly by, opportunities > to tell stories, fill us in. > > Obviously it'd take a talented writer, far beyond my ken, to tie this > into LISP and the whole theory of S-expressions and like that, a heavy > dose of formality, somewhere in the middle of the book. > > Make the list concept shine, but then come back to earth and have it > be one data structure among many. Python celebrates diversity, > heterogeneity, cosmopolitan values. The allure of crystalline purity > is thankfully muted in Pythonia. We don't need it to be "seamless". > > Because Python plays well with others, this is hardly just about > recruiting to Python. > > We want to demystify computers more generally and find a > not-dumbed-down dissection of the list type, in terms of C, and even > lower level languages (how does C work), is just what a certain > segment of the public was craving. > > A wild bestseller. New York Times Review of Books is all agush. "How > to think like a computer scientist on steroids...". > > Dunno who could write it. Might need to have interviews. Maybe not a > book at all. Direct to DVD? > > Kirby > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Edu-sig mailing list > Edu-sig(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig > > > End of Edu-sig Digest, Vol 101, Issue 10 > ****************************************

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