Was it this presentation? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiqeUVgrNnU I have written a basic foundation for Python, found at https://github.com/wonntann/Python, with exercises in the docs directory. Best, Tanya <https://twitter.com/wonntann> <https://github.com/wonntann/> May 4, 2022, 09:04 by gabor.guta@proinbox.com:
Thank you for the quick feedback. I will try to find the PyCon presentation then :) I think, the "keeping the questions secure and secret" may be solved: - there are questions which are kind of definitions and they are not secret (if you learn the right answer you learn the core syntax, etc.); - there are exercises like questions which can be dynamically generated and verified; so, you can't cheat the answer. I'm very curious what other issues you consider.
Gabor
On Wed, May 4, 2022, at 4:18 PM, Reuven M. Lerner wrote:
There was a great talk given at PyCon 2019's education summit about certification. (I'm sorry that I don't remember who gave it, because it was excellent, and laid out the issues very clearly.) It really opened my eyes to the complexity and difficulty of creating a good certification program -- but also the importance of having one run by the community, rather than companies.
I would be happy to chat with other people about setting up some sort of PSF-sponsored Python certification program, which would benefit everyone in the community. But it won't be easy or a short-term project, and there are many issues to deal with, including the need for keeping the questions secure and secret, while keeping it an open-source project.
Reuven
Carl Karsten wrote on 04/05/2022 10:10:
+1
On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 8:59 AM <gabor.guta@proinbox.com> wrote:
I have checked out the the Python certification programs and I think it would be interesting to create something more "official" and more open/cheaper. I have found a Polish company which calls itself as Python-Institute (which is a bit misleading name in my opinion as it suggest that it is officially related to some organization of the Python community) and sells tests/certs from approx. fifty to several hundred EUR depending on the level. I have tried the entry level and for me it was disappointing from the perspective of the quality of the questions. I haven't tried Microsoft's certification yet. I think it would be a very viable option to create a certification program which is officially supported by the PSF and provide some reasonable pricing (i.e. free if someone just want do a self assessment and a reasonable price if someone want to take the test in a controlled environment). The scope could be the core language elements. Let me know what you think about the usefulness of the idea. _______________________________________________ Edu-sig mailing list -- edu-sig@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to edu-sig-leave@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/edu-sig.python.org/ Member address: carl@nextdayvideo.com
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