Hi Kevin Your post prompted me to check out PythonCard. Downloaded it to Win89se syetem with Python 2.1 installed. Took a summer break from computers recently, so I'm probably being very dumb but cannot find any 'getting started' instructions anywhere. How do I start PythonCard? Do / Can / Should I run it from PythonWin, IDLE or Pycrust? What are the first 10 things to do to get it up and running? I would love to recommend it to my 12 year-old nephew who is just starting on Python [His first language]. But I know a;raedy he has has major trouble understanding how to load Python programs " Python's really hard he says". At his age and experience especially getting started is what is is all about. He plays lots of games adn is very quick to uss them out, but installing langauge packages adn deciphering typical programmer's READMEs is an art he has yet to learn. An extended version of your HTML screenshoots formatted as a "Getting Started" Tutorial woould be the first help for anyone I think. What level of programming experience do you think PythonCard is good for? Myself I love Pthon and much more besides, but still find it very frustrating installing and running Python packages. Anything you can do to enhance this aspect of PythonCard is for the good I am sure. Meanwhile I signed up to the PythonCard mailing list and will do some more homework, browse the archives etc. Thanks in advance any help - Jason ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Altis" <altis@semi-retired.com> To: <edu-sig@python.org> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 8:17 AM Subject: [Edu-sig] would you use PythonCard?