Fred Barlett writes: The only other languages I found in my web searches used below the college level were Java, C/C++, (Visual)Basic, and Scheme -- none of which would be appropriate at the level I'm contemplating. But Python, for all its virtues, is a relatively obscure language. It's a good bet that no one at the Board of Ed has heard of it! Hmph -- our project has used Scheme very successfully at the middle school level. We have had one teacher write that the kids were so excited about the algebra class that she had to ask for the books back so that they wouldn't work too far ahead. Several of the kids' parents asked her what was wrong with their kids -- they volunteered to stay at school after hours and do math. Also, as you start working with educators and educrats you will find out that "obscure" isn't helpful at all. If technology isn't fashionable, and I mean "big fashionable" it's an uphill struggle. They don't want their kids to learn to think. They want to have public relation successes ("We teach the latest technology that MS produces and that was on the cover of the economist"). -- Matthias