I'm upgrading to 2.6, 3.0.1 in the background, also need a newer VPython... Recent agit prop on Chipy (Chicago UG) included mention of "Logo robotics" which some will take to be a typo (did I mean Lego?), others will consider ambiguous as to whether "robot" means "virtual" or not, as in the case of a "Logo turtle" (a kind of robot, e.g. GvR http://gvr.sourceforge.net/ ) I'm reminded that in South Africa, a 'robot' is a traffic light (what we'd call it on Hawthorne Ave.), so you could say like "go straight, turn right at the next robot", a good classroom example for talking about "namespaces" and "name collisions" (the former being a solution to the latter). Here I'm deliberately colliding (mashing) "robot" as in "virtual avatar" and "robot" in the sense of floor-bound machine and/or Mars rover. Rough synonyms: doll, piece, sim ("dolls" also virtual these days, per http://mybizmo.blogspot.com/2009/01/playing-with-dolls.html ). I think that's an appropriate move (to have "robot" also refer to virtual versions) because: (a) the API could be the same and (b) a "virtual" robot may be replaced with a real one at some point and (c) when Logo first came out, the "turtle" was a real robot, only became virtual later, here's a picture: http://worldgame.blogspot.com/2006/04/london-knowledge-lab.html I've been kicking it back and forth with Steve Holden, realize Guido also an admirer of MIT Scratch (as is Dethe) -- something more to agree on. I'm using one of the workshop handouts as a recruiting tool (dual purpose) and so sent a pointer around on Chipy. I'd like Chicago area teachers to know more about what we're up to in Portland: http://www.4dsolutions.net/presentations/py4t_notes.pdf OK, 3.0.1 is installed (used altinstall, using install for 2.6 i.e. that'll be my main one, however VPython 5, the one recommended, although technically a release candidate (and no stereo!), is compatible with 2.5 only, so I'm definitely keeping that one, if for no other reason). 2.6, done! Ubuntu 8.04 - the Hardy Heron - released in April 2008. http://vpython.org/contents/download_linux.html (on a scale of 1-10, I'd say compiling and installing this was 8 or 8.5 -- relative to say installing Python itself with is like 2 or 3 when you factor in needing zlib and stuff...). Kirby 4Dsolutions.net ISEPP @ Pycon2009