As far as coordinating the PyCon Education Summit, I don't think there is a strong precedent for any connection between Edu-Sig and running the summit. In general, PyCon people are just that - PyCon organizing spots aren't tied officially to any other Python organizations.... they may well be on the PSF, the board, etc... but they certainly don't have to be, other than Ewa, who is officially board secretary and event coordinator. PyLadies events might be an exception, but otherwise I'm not thinking of any. Since I initially pitched the first summit to Edu-Sig to less than lukewarm support, I'm a little surprised now to hear the summit being proposed as the official event of Edu-Sig... not that I'm against it, particularly, but I do think committed individuals are often more effective at getting specific things done. :-) Still if that's what you all want to do, and it can be a catalyst to re-invigorate Edu-Sig and make it more representative of all kinds of Python education, I certainly wouldn't object. So my short answer is, "there is no precedent, do what you think best." Cheers, Naomi On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Jeff Elkner <jeff@elkner.net> wrote:
OK, I'm all set with the access I need to edit the edu-sig page. I plan to spend at least part of my time on May 31st (National Day of Civic Hacking) working on the web site.
The bottom of our web page currently says: "Send suggestions for changes to the edu-sig list.", which is a good way to handle suggestions.
Looking over the SIG page here: https://www.python.org/community/sigs/, I read:
* Each SIG has a charter, a coordinator, a mailing list, and a directory on the Python website. * SIG membership is informal, defined by subscription to the SIG's mailing list. * Anyone can join a SIG, and participate in the development discussions via the SIG's mailing list.
I don't think we have a edu-sig coordinator at present. Would this be something you would be interested in doing, Chalmer? Perhaps Naomi can shed some more light on the practice for the last two years since she started it, but it seems to me that a revived edu-sig would be the logical group to help coordinate the PES.
At some point soon we should add edu-sig on the SIG page as one of the currently active SIGs.
Jeff:
Thanks for spinning up this conversation. Great stuff.
My intent is to volunteer to chair the Python Education Summit (PES) next year (based on Naomi's comments regarding stepping down). I don't know what the formal process is to make that official... Naomi... can you shed
on that?
As everyone prolly already knows, that is not a task that can be done alone, so there should be plenty of opportunities for others to get their hands dirty. My guess/hope is that Jessica will want to help again this year.
I captured a ton of notes and thoughts that I am putting to paper to outline 'the process' for next year's PES. Planned on putting that up on github as soon as I can. (I'm relocating right now, so free time is a luxury I don't have).
Along with supporting the PES, I would love to support the types of efforts you are outlining here.
Thanks again for firing up this conversation.
chalmer
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On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Andre Roberge <andre.roberge@gmail.com
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On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Jeff Elkner <jeff@elkner.net> wrote:
Two questions:
1. Andre, what do I need to do to begin maintaining that page?
I have not maintained the page for quite a few years now. I changed computer twice in the meantime.
Here's what I remember that I had to do.
1. contact someone on the web support team (pointing out, I think, to
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Chalmer Lowe <chalmer.lowe@gmail.com> wrote: light the
relevant edu-sig discussion)
I know you just asked about how to begin, but just in case you'd want to know, here were the next steps.
2. generate some ssh key (if I recall correctly) so that I would be allowed to commit changes 3. download the whole site (first time) or update it thereafter 4. (re)build it locally. 5. edit the relevant rst file 6. rebuild it (repeat 5 and 6 as needed) 7. commit changes 8. repeat steps 3 to 6 as needed (based on suggestions/requests received)
Now, it could well be that, with the redesign, the process is much easier and can be done online using a CMS.
2. Is there anyone in this thread not on edu-sig? My next reply will go only to the list.
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Jessica Nickel <
jessanickel@gmail.com>
wrote:
Sounds like a plan. I would be happy to talk with Selena about the work to bridge the gap between k-12 educators and Python programmers. I was a k-12 teacher for 10 years (music) and I have been working in schools with my program to teach python coding to kids for the past year and a half, so I do have some experience in that area.
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Jeff Elkner <jeff@elkner.net> wrote:
Great! So it seems we have two short term goals:
1. Get someone to agree to maintain the website (I'm volunteering if there isn't anyone else chomping at the bit to do it). 2. Reach out to Selena Deckelman to help her with her efforts to bridge the gap between developers and K-12 teachers (a noble goal indeed!).
Do we agree that edu-sig is the sensible place to hold this conversation?
If we do, can we ask Selena to join the list if she is not already there? I'll also encourage folks like Lee Harr (cc'd here), the creator of the wonderful Pynguin environment (https://code.google.com/p/pynguin/) to join the list and the discussion.
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Naomi Ceder <naomi.ceder@gmail.com
wrote: > One point of info I can add - the person you're thinking of running > for > PSF > board is Selena Deckelman, who was on Nate's panel at the edu > summit. > She's > been very into bridging the gap between developers and K-12 > teachers. > > Naomi
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