Thanks Arthur, this is quite useful. I've too now have the Pygame and wxPython demos that use PyOpenGL working (except wxGLCanvas) -- in Python 2.3. This lack of a PyOpenGL for Python 2.3 came up at the PORPIG meeting last night (from others besides me), so I'll forward this to your download site to the PORPIG mailing list as well. And it's great to have PyGeo working again too. Love those 3d bezier curves. Kirby FYI PORPIG: check edu-sig posts below to see what Arthur has made available to Windows users: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/edu-sig/2003-August/003030.html http://mail.python.org/pipermail/edu-sig/2003-August/003031.html http://mail.python.org/pipermail/edu-sig/2003-August/003032.html Arthur's downloadable install files are here: http://home.ix.netcom.com/~ajs/download/