-----Original Message----- From: Kirby Urner [mailto:urnerk@qwest.net] To: 'Arthur'; edu-sig@python.org Subject: RE: [Edu-sig] Microsoft's KPL
office in Switzerland - where the timekeeping action has always been -
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Wait a minute, isn't Kirby secretly Swiss? Or was that Bill Mahrer (HBO)?
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Uh, ok, not so secret then.
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From Kirby's follow-up measure to my blowing my cool, I am suspecting that he did not mean to berate me for offering the (irrelevant to the list) information he had asked me to offer. So I accept the probability that
More ethnographic irrelevancy? Great. ;) (I think, see below) The most accomplished and devoted clocksmith within my frame of reference is an old friend, and high school teacher. He would expose his industrial arts students to some of this craft and his passion for it, until he was closed down and retrained into a craftless and passionless Java teacher. Which I guess is progress to the extent we insist on measuring progress in terms of technological content, and weight technological content by year, such that anything from 2000 and before is multiplied by Zero. Note: there was a misunderstanding involved. But at least we learned the further irrelevant fact of the kind of thing of which I am capable. But certainly not generally in response to criticism of the irrelevancy of something I might post - except should it come from someone who asked me to post it. Art
-----Original Message----- From: Arthur [mailto:ajsiegel@optonline.net]
-- except should it come from someone who asked me to post it.
My irrelevancies are almost exclusively self-propelled. So everyone who ever was - except for Kirby, once - is quite safe. Art
From Kirby's follow-up measure to my blowing my cool, I am suspecting that he did not mean to berate me for offering the (irrelevant to the list) information he had asked me to offer. So I accept the probability that there was a misunderstanding involved.
Exactly right. I was saying: look, your background as former CP indoctrinated or whatever can't possibly be common knowledge to people on this list (we simply mustn't presume this shared context/namespace) and so please, in future, if at all possible, supply ample autobio and fleshing out, especially when asking for moratoria or fatwahs, as we cannot possibly be expected to just absorb such context from the ether, as if every intellectual alive "just knows" what Marxism is about etc. etc. Forty years ago maybe, but not now. Not even then (a lot of innocent people got caught in the cross-fire and *still* don't know what hit 'em). So what I'm saying is, again: autobio is NOT irrelevant. That's why I've been offering mine, that's why I encourage you to keep offering yours. My "not of interest to the list" was not a put-down, just meant "this is not shared background, not everybody-knows stuff." You need to fill us in. You need to see that as your responsibility, and no one else's. I think you leave too much out, try too hard to be pithy. We can't be expected to track. That's all I was saying. Kirby
My "not of interest to the list" was not a put-down, just meant "this is not shared background, not everybody-knows stuff."
Note: My exact words were: "not necessarily relevant history to others on this list, either." I was NOT saying: therefore shut up about it (even though I'd encouraged you to share your history). I was saying: more please, if you're going to keep taking strong positions and emphasizing how strongly you feel about them. Because you can't rightly expect your version of history to be what others on this list have considered as a relevant telling, me included. All this applies to me as well. I need to publish my version of history too, for context -- and do, though more at my web sites than here. OK, I think that must be crystal clear. Of course you don't have to follow my advice, and of course I'm free, if you don't, to stop trying to understand your posts, or even read them. Kirby
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