Kirby writes:

I dunno Arthur -- doesn't seem a cut and dried an issue to me.

I had recently come across this for the first time, though it is apparently famous (and probably apocryphal): I have been looking for an opportunity to throw it your way, but give up on finding the proper opening. """ Isaac Newton's assistant at Cambridge claimed that during five years he saw Newton laugh only once. Newton had loaned a copy of Euclid to an acquaintance, and the gentleman asked what use it was to study Euclid, "upon which Sir Isaac was very merry. """ And VB sucks. Art