Drs. Fotis Georgatos's MSc thesis
On the Page http://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/edu-sig/ Under Academic Papers there is a link to “Drs. Fotis Georgatos's MSc thesis, How applicable is Python as first computer language for teaching programming in a pre-university educational environment, from a teacher's point of view?” http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0809/0809.1437.pdf On the third page of the thesis it says “Each word of this thesis is plagiarized. I have never generated a single word myself.” So is this a real thesis? Was he making a joke? Is the link supposed to be a Joke? I’m asking since I quoted it twice and then someone asked me the same question.
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Dan Peirce <peirce.dan@gmail.com> wrote:
On the Page http://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/edu-sig/
Under Academic Papers there is a link to “Drs. Fotis Georgatos's MSc thesis, How applicable is Python as first computer language for teaching programming in a pre-university educational environment, from a teacher's point of view?”
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0809/0809.1437.pdf
On the third page of the thesis it says “Each word of this thesis is plagiarized. I have never generated a single word myself.”
I took that as a joke; very few people invent new words, so we are all plagiarizing in that sense. Here's what he posted on this very list in 2008! ===== Hello *, since I occasionaly get people interested in my MSc thesis that was written long ago (2002) - people even reference it but, it's rather hard to get the original being somewhere in Amsterdam - I hereby inform you of its electronic presence at arxiv.org: arXiv:0809.1437 [pdf] Title: How applicable is Python as first computer language for teaching programming in a pre-university educational environment, from a teacher's point of view? Authors: Fotis Georgatos Comments: 135 pages, 20 tables, 10 figures (incl. evolution of computer languages) Subjects: Programming Languages (cs.PL); Computers and Society (cs.CY) Abstract: This project report attempts to evaluate the educational properties of the Python computer language, in practice. This is done by examining computer language evolution history, related scientific background work, the existing educational research on computer languages and Python's experimental application in higher secondary education in Greece, during first half of year 2002. This Thesis Report was delivered in advance of a thesis defense for a Masters/Doctorandus (MSc/Drs) title with the Amstel Institute/Universiteit van Amsterdam, during the same year. =========== André
So is this a real thesis? Was he making a joke? Is the link supposed to be a Joke?
I’m asking since I quoted it twice and then someone asked me the same question.
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On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Andre Roberge <andre.roberge@gmail.com>wrote: << snip >>
I took that as a joke; very few people invent new words, so we are all plagiarizing in that sense.
Yes, I see it that way too. The individual words we use do not originate with us. Plagiarism is less about the individual words than their lengthier permutations in the form of sentences and paragraphs. Kirby
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