This is a nice link and the survey is interesting. Thank you. There is much to think about. I notice that the request is to have comments by July 26 and I suspect that later comments might be welcome. I want to point out one important factor. The point of using at least two languages and illustrating three different paradigms that way is an important one. They are not interested in using one language for covering a broader landscape. It has to do with preparing students for shifting their abstractions and not being too immersed in a single syntactical-semantical model. One could object to this. I think it is a healthy thing, especially if they can manage it well and not inject confusion into the experience of secondary school students. I would say a key is that other paradigms not be just talked about (they propose two hands-on projects) but be experienced. Also, in the material on computer organization and principles there is treatment of the ways programming systems map their entities onto the underlying computer architecture and processing model. It will be interesting to see how the issues of representation by computer are approached and any tools for illustrating that are employed. The biggest challenge, it seems to me, is that teachers be equipped to deliver material at the level that is called for here. Certainly a worthy topic for those interested in CP4E to explore ... -- orcmid ------------------ Dennis E. Hamilton http://orcmid.com/ mailto:dennis.hamilton@acm.org tel. +1-206-932-6970 cell +1-206-779-9430 The Miser Project: http://miser-theory.info -----Original Message----- From: edu-sig-admin@python.org [mailto:edu-sig-admin@python.org]On Behalf Of Ludger Humbert Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 15:45 To: edu-sig@python.org Subject: [Edu-sig] A maybe change in CS at US Dear collegues, as I heard last week at the SEC III Conference Open IFIP-GI-Conference on Social, Ethical and Cognitive Issues of Informatics and ICT (Information and Communication Technologies) July 22-26, 2002 University of Dortmund, Germany e-learning media education change management didactics of informatics URL: http://seciii.cs.uni-dortmund.de/ in the talk of Harriet G. Taylor Abstract at: http://seciii.cs.uni-dortmund.de/web/it-professions.htm#taylor THURSDAY, 25th July 2002 there seems to be a possible change in curricula in the US. As she told one is able to send contributions to some commitee. I think the most interesting point is, that no longer a concret programming language is mentioned and you may tell, there are more than one paradigms, one can teach. IMHO Python is a language, which can more or less deal with all three paradigms, which should be taught ;-) URLs can be found inside the abstract Ludger Humbert _______________________________________________ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig