On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Litvin <litvin@skylit.com> wrote:

At 03:52 PM 1/25/2010, kirby urner wrote:

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However, if you show the 2 + 2 is adding two objects (2 .__add__(2) the same thing), is that "objects first"?

Yes.

OK, I agree. 2 .__add__(2) is pretty esoteric, as is dir (2). Not everyone does that, or talks about __ribs__. How about if the teacher says: """ 1.0 and 1 are two different types of number, floating point and integer. "A" is a type as well, a string type. All of these types are types of object. <--- more generic than number. """ But we might get to that only after using Python as a calculator for awhile, getting used to **, assignment operator, parentheses. Should feel like old hat as I bet a lot of these students were already used a TI before. So this'd be "objects second" perhaps? Other approaches: objects after awhile; objects last; objects never. Kirby