https://youtu.be/enO1vgOJxwM Were I to join the Saturday Morning queue, and share a Lightning Talk at a Pycon. Fond memories. [1] This 4 min 38 sec YouTube speaks to teachers in that Venn Diagram where the set of math teachers and set of Python programmers intersect. edu-sig has always presumed such an intersection exists, and caters to its members. Kirby