Re: Programming for non-programmer IT professionals

Kirby & Jim, When analyzing data like you're talking about, you might want to check out Martin Fowler's "Analysis Patterns : Reusable Object Models." Many of his examples are drawn from health care, and there's a lot of good stuff. ISBN 0201895420. --Dethe Dethe Elza Antarcti.ca Client Lead http://antarcti.ca http://map.net

Thanks for the tip. Here's the Amazon URL: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201895420/ It'd be fun to swap course outlines or lesson plans showing how Python might integrate more tightly into medical informatics. In my own work, I'm exploring the potential links between HCL and XML. How could we describe our patient-encounter- procedure-subprocedure model in XML, or would that be the best way to go? Having a patient-centric view, with both linear/temporal and current data is one way we want to present info. An aggregate/statistical view, with patients sorted by demographic attributes (for example) is another. These are the generic sorts of problems that lots and lots of people are working on, in many different ways. Links: http://puck.informatik.med.uni-giessen.de/people/messaritakis/hl7xml/ http://www.infoloom.com/gcaconfs/WEB/philadelphia99/alschuler.HTM http://www.info.dsdc.dla.mil/Partners/HL7.html http://medicine.ucsd.edu/f99/D005484.htm I haven't done anything with Python in this area (yet) and would be interested in seeing what others might be doing along these lines. Curriculum writing which spells out aspects of HL7-XML integration, using Python as a teaching language, would I think be a useful component in medical informatics (using Python Standard Library XML features, plus 3rd party enhancements). One idea here is to anticipate the new and existing component architectures wherein Python modules will be able to participate in harmony with other components written in other languages (COM, .NET etc -- I gather from reading the Python stuff that there's quite a bit of interest in getting .NET and Python working together). See: http://www.microsoft.com/net/default.asp for more on the .NET thing. Kirby At 09:47 AM 11/17/2000 -0800, Dethe Elza wrote:
Kirby & Jim,
When analyzing data like you're talking about, you might want to check out Martin Fowler's "Analysis Patterns : Reusable Object Models." Many of his examples are drawn from health care, and there's a lot of good stuff. ISBN 0201895420.
--Dethe
Dethe Elza Antarcti.ca Client Lead http://antarcti.ca http://map.net

Thanks for the tip. Here's the Amazon URL: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201895420/
I generally use ISBNs to reference a book so folks can use their store of choice. Here in Canada I usually use http://chapters.ca or http://indigo.ca to avoid going through customs and paying international shipping.
It'd be fun to swap course outlines or lesson plans showing how Python might integrate more tightly into medical informatics.
My current work is in 3D on the web, I just happened to have read the book and thought it would apply to your research interest. My medical infomatics is limited to what I picked up as a Hospice office secretary/ office manager and an incomplete EMT program. I'm on the list because I'm hugely interested in python, learning, and synergetics. --Dethe Dethe Elza Antarcti.ca Client Lead http://antarcti.ca http://map.net

At 10:58 AM 11/17/2000 -0800, Dethe Elza wrote:
Thanks for the tip. Here's the Amazon URL: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201895420/
I generally use ISBNs to reference a book so folks can use their store of choice.
Yes, ISBN more useful -- I was being more crassly commercial in referencing Amazon, mostly a convience for USAers (or for those wanting to see a book cover, read some reviews, get an idea of the price and so on...).
It'd be fun to swap course outlines or lesson plans showing how Python might integrate more tightly into medical informatics.
My current work is in 3D on the web, I just happened to have read the book and thought it would apply to your research interest. My medical infomatics is limited to what I picked up as a Hospice office secretary/ office manager and an incomplete EMT program.
I'm on the list because I'm hugely interested in python, learning, and synergetics.
--Dethe
That's a great combo (sharing a bias). I'll try to find that patterns book in a library or even 2nd hand (we're fortunate to have Powell's here in PDX (another commercial)). Speaking of 3D and imaging, that's a whole other way to approach medical topics using Python. Medicine, as much as any discipline, is pushing the boundaries of computerized imagery (storage-retrieval and analysis) and lots of Python is devoted to manipulation of digital files -- plus medical databases maybe include "blobs" i.e. binary data or links to same = cines, MRIs, other kinds of tomography. Of course 3D (or "4D" in synergetics -- the origin of my company name, "4D Solutions" (commercial :-D)) is close to my heart as well, a primary focus of such Python-related webpages as http://www.inetarena.com/~pdx4d/ocn/pyqvectors.html Kirby Related posts: http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=617004981&fmt=text http://www.teleport.com/~pdx4d/videogrammatron.html
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