
Kids Programming Language comes up. And I did recently find out that my "ideal" of the elementary school teacher (in my own experience) - Mr. B. - did eventually incorporate Logo into his curriculum. So I just googled "Logo". The first hit is the homepage of Sourceforge (which I find encouraging), but the 4th hit the homepage of Mircosoft (which I find confusing). Turns out "edit -> Find on this page" for either has no hits for "logo". I have to assume that Google is getting the hits from the html source - though I can't find a "logo" on the current Sourceforge homepage source. I guess I never thought about the possibility that Google gets fooled by reference in html source that is not at all relevant to the actual public page and the basis on which it is visited. If true, isn't that subject to all kinds of abuse? The other "hits" are a collection of the most visited sights on the web, e.g. ebay. Presumably they all have logos and a reference in their html source to a logo. But is Sourceforge more visited than Microsoft and Ebay? Googling "Logo Software" helps a bit, but since many of the most visited sites have something to do with software and have logos, not a very sensible selection comes back. Its pretty rare - in my experience - to find a circumstance in which Google seems quite broken. I guess there are always corner cases. Art

On 10/4/05, Arthur <ajsiegel@optonline.net> wrote: [...]
So I just googled "Logo".
The first hit is the homepage of Sourceforge (which I find encouraging), but the 4th hit the homepage of Mircosoft (which I find confusing). [...] Googling "Logo Software" helps a bit, but since many of the most visited sites have something to do with software and have logos, not a very sensible selection comes back.
Its pretty rare - in my experience - to find a circumstance in which Google seems quite broken.
Just ask google (or any other search engine) what you're looking for: http://www.google.com/search?q=logo+programming+language -- JanC

-----Original Message----- From: edu-sig-bounces@python.org [mailto:edu-sig-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of JanC
Just ask google (or any other search engine) what you're looking for: http://www.google.com/search?q=logo+programming+language
Google on "python" and the first hit (not too surprising) is www.python.org If the gif image around which organizations built their identity was called a "python", it apparently would be otherwise. Just a curiosity of the new age. I am sure good marketing types now give such matters Deep Thought. Art

-----Original Message----- From: edu-sig-bounces@python.org [mailto:edu-sig-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Kirby Urner Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] OT: googling "logo"
I am sure good marketing types now give such matters Deep Thought.
Art
I know I don't, but others might. I'm at least OK at marketing.
Kirby
Well I thought there was a bit of an industry growing up around the idea of psyching out Google. I had the opportunity to chat with the lead of a project (with an underlying profit motive) that is perennially in the Sourceforge "most active" top ten, who was a little more unashamed then you might expect to explain how to me how he assures himself that ranking. Whatever. Art

Guido must be a whiz at marketing. Look what happens when you google: programming language :-) --Z Arthur wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: edu-sig-bounces@python.org [mailto:edu-sig-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Kirby Urner Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] OT: googling "logo"
I am sure good marketing types now give such matters Deep Thought.
Art
I know I don't, but others might. I'm at least OK at marketing.
Kirby
Well I thought there was a bit of an industry growing up around the idea of psyching out Google.
I had the opportunity to chat with the lead of a project (with an underlying profit motive) that is perennially in the Sourceforge "most active" top ten, who was a little more unashamed then you might expect to explain how to me how he assures himself that ranking.
Whatever.
Art
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----- Original Message ----- From: John Zelle <john.zelle@wartburg.edu> Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2005 11:24 am Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] OT: googling "logo"
Guido must be a whiz at marketing. Look what happens when you google: programming language :-)
--Z
No argument here. But the extremes he goes to. The @decorator thing was clearly a ploy to build the traffic statistics for comp.lang.python.. the devil ;). Art
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