
My son thought the video hysterical. I thought it interesting. I wonder what you think of it.
Yeah I guess it's interesting; not funny. It maily is talking about some newsgroup thing, when HTTP and websites ended up being the big thing (but this news show was before Netscape, wasn't it?).They say the advantage is that "there's a table marked football", and today those advantages are mostly gone. Most people use email or IM to communicate, which isn't like that. Also there are forums or mailing lists like this, but the average internet user doesn't use it communicate; they use it for Google or Amazon.com.
You may need Windows to view it. I hope you can scratch up a partition somewhere where you might be running that particular operating system ;) .
Yeah I had to switch to Windows. Sound on Linux doesn't work, because the version of Alsa that Mandrake 10.0 came with doesn't have support for my sound card and there's no RPM for a newer version and compiling it didn't work. If I took the time to upgrade, I would get a new version. Also Totem Media Player, which Mandrake uses by default, doesn't work with WMVs very well (it tryed downloading a plugin, but nothing happened) for some reason. Tim. -- Visit my website: (and please be a supporter of free trade, free software, phr33 s0ftware, free dom, and free propoganda by giving others the url) http://kmg.is-a-geek.org Garunteed to be down at least 5% of the time.

Yeah I had to switch to Windows. Sound on Linux doesn't work, because the version of Alsa that Mandrake 10.0 came with doesn't have support for my sound card and there's no RPM for a newer version and compiling it didn't work. If I took the time to upgrade, I would get a new version. Also Totem Media Player, which Mandrake uses by default, doesn't work with WMVs very well (it tryed downloading a plugin, but nothing happened) for some reason.
Tim.
OK, back from Salem. It's a fine town (got a lot done too), although I must say, Tacoma is really coming along. Our family made a side trip into Tacoma over the Thanksgiving weekend. Off topic: some slides from that side trip: http://tinyurl.com/3htra (the weird metal volcano that appears so many times is the outer hull of a glassworks -- part of the Museum of Glass, these being outside shots of it taken on my little Fujifilm 2600). Tim and I swapped a lot of emails on this sound card issue. He quickly burrowed down to the metal, figuring out which chipset Dell was using, and what he'd need to do to make ALSA work. I suggested grabbing just the ALSA rpms from a 10.1 (vs. the 10.0 he's using -- Mandrake), but then it didn't seem the right drivers were in there or something. Anyway, the annoying thing was in the beginning, when the configuration caused major melt downs. Having no sound, but no melt downs either, proved acceptable, until some future upgrade. Doesn't interfere with the ILP, which is the point right now.
-- Visit my website: (and please be a supporter of free trade, free software, phr33 s0ftware, free dom, and free propoganda by giving others the url) http://kmg.is-a-geek.org Garunteed to be down at least 5% of the time.
For those of you who've maybe visited, the whole blog thing is implemented in Python. Tim has tweaked and expanded Pybloxsom in various ways (the blog documents some of those accomplishments). The calendar cgi is also Python. And he's been switching over from raw cgi to a mod_python based approach, which is something I'm behind on. I'm hoping he'll give me a quick overview at official meeting #2. Kirby

OK, back from Salem. It's a fine town (got a lot done too), although I must say, Tacoma is really coming along. Our family made a side trip into Tacoma over the Thanksgiving weekend. Off topic: some slides from that side trip: http://tinyurl.com/3htra (the weird metal volcano that appears so many times is the outer hull of a glassworks -- part of the Museum of Glass, these being outside shots of it taken on my little Fujifilm 2600).
That slideshow thing is awesome. It's done in Java, I assume?
For those of you who've maybe visited, the whole blog thing is implemented in Python.
I think someone did visit as a result of the site, as the visitors went up from around 20 this month (very few) to 53 (still very few, but more!).
Tim has tweaked and expanded Pybloxsom in various ways (the blog documents some of those accomplishments). The calendar cgi is also Python. And he's been switching over from raw cgi to a mod_python based approach, which is something I'm behind on.
Yeah, I made the mod_python version at http://kmg.is-a-geek.org/python/cal.py, and the calendar that Kirby made can be found at that url plus /cal2 Tim -- Visit my website: (and please be a supporter of free trade, free software, phr33 s0ftware, free dom, and free propoganda by giving others the url) http://kmg.is-a-geek.org Garunteed to be down at least 5% of the time.

Hi Tim --
That slideshow thing is awesome. It's done in Java, I assume?
Yeah, I presume so. A free service I'll probably use again -- and you may upgrade to more bells and whistles, if you pay them, which I'll consider also.
I think someone did visit as a result of the site, as the visitors went up from around 20 this month (very few) to 53 (still very few, but more!).
If you keep that dyndns URL alive, I think you'll find that our simply burying a pointer here on edu-sig will feed traffic over the long haul. What's true about archived listservs (a brand turned generic, like xerox for copy) is your communications are far less ephemeral than on IM or chat (chat logging is the prerogative of any individual, but there's rarely a highly centralized archive unless maybe on some .gov or .mil accounts).
-- Visit my website: (and please be a supporter of free trade, free software, phr33 s0ftware, free dom, and free propoganda by giving others the url) http://kmg.is-a-geek.org Garunteed to be down at least 5% of the time.
I should introduce you to some of the characters on board edu-sig. Arthur here is younger than I'd expected when I first met him via this list. As sometimes happens, you meet a person over the Internet long before you meet them in person, and it's funny when you've built up these expectations based on reading, and then, wow: (a) this person is just what I imagined! or (b) how could I have been more wrong? -- and anywhere in between. Anyway, Arthur was still in the NYC financial district (near the old Pan Am skyscraper) when I met him; we had a beer. Pygeo is his pet Python project, which has a lot of sophisticated geometry *on top* of the code, i.e. you can get lost in projective geometry as a topic in itself, and never even stop to consider that people (Arthur in a chief capacity) had to code this thing. John Zelle, recently chatting on the same thread, about wx, VPython, IDLE, Tk and so on, is the author of a new computer science text book, published by a friend of mine in Wilsonville. I recently attended a seminar at Willamette University in Salem, geared for college professors looking for a good intro-to-CS language, post burnout on C++, and then Java. In general, the so-called agile languages are getting a second look these days -- Perl definitely, but also Ruby and some others. John's book was given out free to everyone in the room -- smart marketing, but in my view an ethical maneuver, as if these profs in turn require students to purchase a copy, that spreads comprehension of Python, a powerful tool, a friend of geeks everywhere and for all time. Given the first computer language I ever learned was APL (Princeton had APL terminals scattered around the campus, netted to the IBM 370, just to see what would happen), you'll see that I've been an agile languages buff from the beginning, though I've dabbled in systems languages, starting with Assembler, FORTRAN, then PL/1, some C/C++ -- but that's not my forte. No, I gravitated to dBase because of all my work in the NGO sphere (the 501-c-3s), and grew up at the "dot prompt." Even today I'm a highly skilled FoxPro programmer. VFP opted out of .NET because it already had a lot of the same features, and an even cooler philosophy in some ways -- but more about that some other time (and on some other list). John, by the way, comes from a Java-teaching background. This connects us to Jython, a recent topic in our mentor-student emails. My own appreciation for Java as a language (if not a bread and butter one) derives mostly from Bruce Eckel ( http://www.mindview.net/ ) -- ditto C++. Anyway, these are only some of the wonderful cast on edu-sig. We have the special distinction of being one of the first listservs to be the subject of a PhD thesis: 'Promoting Computer Literacy Through Programming Python' by John Miller. You'll find the link on our home page: http://www.python.org/sigs/edu-sig/ Kirby
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Kirby Urner
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The Bauman Family