hmm... A thread on Flashcoders list [Flash ActionScript programming] about external editors introduced an interesting one: Leo """I know that a lot of folks have the same problems as i do - commenting code. I've found that 'outline editors' can really help with this kind of thing, and one that is excellent is Leo. It supports 'literate programming', but don't let that scare you! It just makes it easier to create the docs and the code at the same time. http://personalpages.tds.net/~edream/front.html Check out the online tutorial, and see what you think - its helped with the development and debugging of both python and flash projects. http://www.evisa.com/e/sbooks/leo/sbframetoc_ns.htm There is a quite active forum @ leo's source forge home too. http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=10226 Runs on all kinds of platforms, Open Source, etc etc... """ Here's a helpful testimonial also about it: http://personalpages.tds.net/~edream/SpeedReam.html "In actual practice, this organizational 'history' is so powerful that I can't begin to describe it. A reverse learning curve happens when an engineer gets a Leo file that already has the 'interrupt time sensitive' routines grouped together by the last unfortunate soul who had to work on them. There may not be any more written documentation, but the knowledge contained in the structure can be breathtaking. It is certainly timesaving. I find this particularly true in my own case. Often I'll look at some code that seems totally unfamiliar and think 'what idiot wrote this crap'. Then I'll look at the version control comments and realize that I wrote the crap. Then for sure I know the documentation is non-existent, but the clones I used to develop it are still there, and they always serve to refresh my memory in an indescribable way." ...................... PythonWin has nice folding editor because it is based on Scintilla. And PythonCard also? Python's implicit readability, docstrings, and white space indentation make it especially suitable for folding editors. Leo seems to go further with this than others. The idea invites some edu-sig insights. I am mostly suspicious of editors which junk up my screen with clunky symbols, like those ghastly early HTML ones. But also a happy veteran/fan of folding 'outline' editors. I had one {in EPROM} on my first computer - a Radio Shack Tandy Model 100 laptop. Since the screen was only a 8 lines high, it made especially ingenious good sense! What do you think? ./Jason ______________________________________________ Jason Cunliffe [NOMADICS: Director art+design] Tel/fax: +1 718 422-1078 jasonic@nomadics.org N 43:00.000' W 074:31.875' ALT:1144 ft 84 Henry Street #3C Brooklyn NY 11201 USA