I see the long-planned reskinning of the Python website is finally going down. edu-sig is as good a place as any to check out the handsome new template: http://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/edu-sig/ I'm glad I had the foresite to put a direct link to this archive at the very bottom of the page, as that direct relationship to a SIG mail list and archive appears to have been severed (used to be upper left -- check archive.org). Also, I don't see any direct attribution to me, as the page maintainer, which is good, because my SVN pipeline was broken anyway. I'd become a mere figure-head, another faceless name around campus. So I'm off the hook, swimming free. I still freely admit to enjoying Python though -- so charming. And I'm really in to Pythonic Mathematics, same as always, with a Buckyian spin. Scott, I connected with your friend J. Orr @ Willamette. Salem is obviously well supported from Portland, should that tiny CS faculty want to work with livewire snake charmers, seasoned, experienced. We should fire up PORPIG again. OSCON approacheth. Kirby