Re: [Edu-sig] re: Python Programming: An Introduction toComputerScience
In a message of Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:19:06 PST, "Kirby Urner" writes:
Laura wrote:
I think that a problem we have is that programming is seen to be tied t o math, and numeracy, (as is problem solving in general) rather that literacy, and the arts and humanities in general.
Yes, I agree. Another way of saying it, however, is that numeracy skills have application in the humanities.
I like Kappraff's 'Connections: The Geometric Bridge Between Art and Science' (2nd edition) as a source of good programming ideas.[1]
Kirby
[1] http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/9810245866/ -- too bad it's so spendy.
Oooh, thank you! I am getting this out of the library and reading it over Christmas. One good turn deserves another: http://www.cambiumbooks.com/books/design/0-9643999-1-1/ http://www.cambiumbooks.com/books/design/0-9643999-0-3/ David Pye -- the Nature and Aesthetic of Design + the Nature and Art of Workmanship David Pye was a professor of Architecture and a woodworker. But these books are about the creative process, and the creating of anything. Laura
If anyone is familiar with the Livewires package... I can't get the graphics windows to behave. When I run the test() then everything seems to be working fine. But when I try to use it this happens: begin_graphics() #The graphics window opens as it does for test() draw(200,200) #nothing happens. No graphics. And then, when the mouse is over the window there is a WAIT cursor... and if I click, it all stops working. DOH! Could there be a mouse driver problem? I have no clue at all. Thanks fro any suggestions! BJ MacNevin
I have never used the LIVEWIRES material, so I don't have specific knowledge. I was wondering if you are running this out of IDLE. The new version of IDLE (by default) does not merge the event-loops of Tk subprocesses. This leaves some graphics packages apparently unresponsive when being tested interactively under IDLE. If this is your situation, try running IDLE with the -n switch, or try using a plain vanilla Python shell (not IDLE) and see if that solves the problem. If you are not using IDLE, then just ignore this post, as it clearly isn't your problem :-) --John BJ MacNevin wrote:
If anyone is familiar with the Livewires package...
I can't get the graphics windows to behave. When I run the test() then everything seems to be working fine. But when I try to use it this happens:
begin_graphics() #The graphics window opens as it does for test()
draw(200,200) #nothing happens. No graphics.
And then, when the mouse is over the window there is a WAIT cursor... and if I click, it all stops working. DOH! Could there be a mouse driver problem?
I have no clue at all.
Thanks fro any suggestions!
BJ MacNevin
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I have never used the LIVEWIRES material, so I don't have specific knowledge. I was wondering if you are running this out of IDLE. The new version of IDLE (by default) does not merge the event-loops of Tk subprocesses. This leaves some graphics packages apparently unresponsive when being tested interactively under IDLE. If this is your situation, try running IDLE with the -n switch, or try using a plain vanilla Python shell (not IDLE) and see if that solves the problem.
If you are not using IDLE, then just ignore this post, as it clearly isn't your problem :-)
--John
BJ MacNevin wrote:
If anyone is familiar with the Livewires package...
I can't get the graphics windows to behave. When I run the test() then everything seems to be working fine. But when I try to use it this happens:
begin_graphics() #The graphics window opens as it does for test()
draw(200,200) #nothing happens. No graphics.
And then, when the mouse is over the window there is a WAIT cursor... and if I click, it all stops working. DOH! Could there be a mouse driver
By george that did it! Thanks a lot, John! I really appreciate the help! BJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Zelle" <john.zelle@wartburg.edu> To: "BJ MacNevin" <brian@macnevin.net> Cc: "'Edu-sig'" <edu-sig@python.org> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] LIVEWIRES Package problems... problem?
I have no clue at all.
Thanks fro any suggestions!
BJ MacNevin
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