Squeak, "an obsolete product", seems to have a robust developemnt community behind it. The squeak-dev mailing list gets between 70-100 requests a day. Although it is a relatively simple matter to install from source on a freebsd or linux box, it would be nice if one of the major linux distributions would include it as a package. No doubt this would be a great way to promote it. best regards, re-v __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com