Re: [Edu-sig] Pycon organizers is now talking about poster sessions
In a message of Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:52:26 +0200, Gregor Lingl writes:
Laura Creighton schrieb:
I think it would help if an actual teacher got involved before they decide what teachers want without consultation ...
Laura
Hmmm, don't know what to do with this. Seems to be a reply to some postin g. Ok, I'm a teacher, but I definitely do not belong to the circle of pycon-organizers ...
I think it would be helpful if you posted the original to EduSig?
Best wishes, Gregor
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There are lots of notes by now. And that is the unfortunate part, you have to subscribe to read them. Plus the whole list is in an uproar as part of discovering that PyCON lost a bunch of money this year. But since I know some people on this list have strong ideas about how a poster session at pycon should be organised, I thought it was time to put the word out that now is when such things are being discussed. The initial article was mine. I said that I would like PyCON better if there was some way to get a track of 'what have you been doing lately'. The sort of talks that would not get accepted to PyCON because they are not polished enough, or not of interest to a large enough segment of the community. Somebody suggested posters, and the whole topic took off from there. Laura
The initial article was mine. I said that I would like PyCON better if there was some way to get a track of 'what have you been doing lately'. The sort of talks that would not get accepted to PyCON because they are not polished enough, or not of interest to a large enough segment of the community. Somebody suggested posters, and the whole topic took off from there.
Laura
I was on the list for awhile, gave Vern a boost with all the background as I knew it, including an idea for poster session from Steve. Since Pycon this year, I've been alert to other conferences with more feelers out to schools and user groups, not just private companies. The ESRI-sponsored GIS conference, where I was a guest speaker, stood out in many ways, as at least half the exhibit hall is devoted to academic projects. I took pictures and shared them, but I think many people, Steve, Vern, Jeff included, already know what a poster session might look like. I hadn't attended one, a professional one (discounting science fairs I'd entered, some awards received) until 1st International Conference on Buckminsterfullerene in Santa Barbara in early 1990s. I'm assuming Vern is still on the list and he's the designated driver for this project. He and Jeff went to NECC conference. PyOhio also has something postery I think. Another Jeff, Jeff Rush, was floating the eduPycon idea, as a spin-off of Pycon. It may well be that the business-oriented mindsets of the people organizing Pycon will preclude their doing an effective job, although it's way to early too worry about that, plus this is just the first year of trying, so jury out until 2012 at least. I don't have time for nuts and bolts on this, think Vern will do fine. I'm mostly in bed with Microsoft these days, looking at IronPython's classroom potential. There's a chance Portland Public will embrace Python in a big way, with more pilots beginning this year (in addition to pilots already completed and documented) but it's not a given that CPython will be their first choice. Lots to think about, big meeting Aug 7. More soon, Kirby
I should add to this that my friend David Feinstein has pioneered a trully elegant set of software tools, in cahoots with a talented Javascript programmer, that help judges with caucusing, the process they enter into in order to determine the top three projects, if a "best in show" approach is in the cards (with ISEF, that's kind of the point). What I don't know is whether Vern will want to move in this "dog show" direction, with categories, e.g. "best use of animation" or "best use of sound" (just off the top...). I think he has some experience around dog shows and I could see where this might be a fun direction, as then a star teenager in Peoria could brag to her school that she was a star, a winner, in some Hyatt Regency context, even though her family didn't have the money to send her. As a reward, she'll get to attend, gratis, when she turns 17, or whatever the cutoff. We're all free to spiel out such science fiction, offer our views. In my own mind, edu-sig is sort of the "community in charge" on this one, and Vern has been playing it that way. He's one of us. We had that BOF with Dr. Chuck, with Ian (sounding pessimistic about Gattegno ever getting a foothold, and indeed he struck out after three times at bat), with many of us here. Got to meet Gregor, really fun. Jeff Rush is brilliant. Andre, our fearless leader, a class act, and so on. Bottom line: not too worried, have resources and contacts to contribute should Pycon really become the Cirque du Soliel I think it could be (already is -- "Rivendale" they called us, we ate that up). I also used the pycon-organizer planning list to float my notion of multiple Pycons, many running in parallel. A quick check of the website reveals its like that already, with Pycons in India, Argentina or wherever people wanna do em. Every one will have a chance to show off the "poster session" idea. My hope is we gain the benefits of any global franchise: quick comparing of notes across multiple venues gives us a better experience all around. Factor in CTE doing something similar, add synergy, and we've got a dynamite winning hand (maybe). Looking forward to Atlanta, provided CSN keeps afloat, lots of people taking pot shots, wanting us to take a dive. People aren't really that open to "philosophy talk" once they find out what it is. But that's OK. Not everyone goes for Patti Smith either. Kirby On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:00 PM, kirby urner<kirby.urner@gmail.com> wrote:
The initial article was mine. I said that I would like PyCON better if there was some way to get a track of 'what have you been doing lately'. The sort of talks that would not get accepted to PyCON because they are not polished enough, or not of interest to a large enough segment of the community. Somebody suggested posters, and the whole topic took off from there.
Laura
I was on the list for awhile, gave Vern a boost with all the background as I knew it, including an idea for poster session from Steve.
Since Pycon this year, I've been alert to other conferences with more feelers out to schools and user groups, not just private companies.
The ESRI-sponsored GIS conference, where I was a guest speaker, stood out in many ways, as at least half the exhibit hall is devoted to academic projects.
I took pictures and shared them, but I think many people, Steve, Vern, Jeff included, already know what a poster session might look like. I hadn't attended one, a professional one (discounting science fairs I'd entered, some awards received) until 1st International Conference on Buckminsterfullerene in Santa Barbara in early 1990s.
I'm assuming Vern is still on the list and he's the designated driver for this project. He and Jeff went to NECC conference. PyOhio also has something postery I think.
Another Jeff, Jeff Rush, was floating the eduPycon idea, as a spin-off of Pycon.
It may well be that the business-oriented mindsets of the people organizing Pycon will preclude their doing an effective job, although it's way to early too worry about that, plus this is just the first year of trying, so jury out until 2012 at least.
I don't have time for nuts and bolts on this, think Vern will do fine. I'm mostly in bed with Microsoft these days, looking at IronPython's classroom potential. There's a chance Portland Public will embrace Python in a big way, with more pilots beginning this year (in addition to pilots already completed and documented) but it's not a given that CPython will be their first choice.
Lots to think about, big meeting Aug 7.
More soon,
Kirby
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