Mailman 3 February 2011 - Inpycon

venue
by Kenneth Gonsalves Feb. 11, 2011

Feb. 11, 2011

hi, as you all know one principle we have been working on is to rotate the conference around India - so that it slowly establishes itself as a genuine all-India conference. To this end I was very vocal in campaigning the cause of Chennai, and it was finally decided to hold the next edition in Chennai. I was keen of Chennai since I, Jaganadh and Rajeswari were there and we were sure we could easily make the conference happen. Unfortunately, Jaganadh and I moved to the Coimbatore region and Rajeswari is getting married, and it looks like nothing is happening on the Chennai end. We had fixed a deadline of December 20th for fixing the venue. It is february and we do not even have a short list - and dates are not fixed. If things do not happen fast, we will not be able to get foreign delegates or even tie up sponsors. We are talking to people, but they need to finalise their budgets before 31st March and we are looking a bit silly when we do not have either a date or a venue. In this context I hereby propose Coimbatore as an alternate venue. We do not have a python users group in coimbatore, but the up and coming Coimbatore LUG is heavily python oriented, and can take up the job. We have excellent relationships with the management and staff of several colleges/universities and are spoilt for choice for a venue. As for climate, infrastructure, accomodation, international airport and accessibility, Coimbatore is on par with any other major city - with the distinction that distances are less. With the new superfast trains it is a stone's throw from Bangalore and Chennai - the major sources of delegates and also it is very convenient for access from the big surge of interest in python throughout Kerala. If we can take a decision on this I can assure you that we can fix the venue and dates by the 20th of feb and move on to more important things. I realise I am stepping on some Chennai toes in proposing this, but the long silence from that end is not encouraging at all. Thoughts? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves

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The Final Chennai Bid
by kausikram krishnasayee Feb. 11, 2011

Feb. 11, 2011

Here is a detailed explanation of what Chennai has, what Chennai offers, and more importantly where Chennai is lagging behind. The Background ============ A bit of rant here. First and foremost deciding on a venue will depend on deciding the number of people we want to accommodate. the total number of tracks we want to have and the number of days we want to run the event for. Without zeroing on these numbers, we will not be able to zero in on a venue as only some of the venues we shortlisted have 'scalable' infrastructure. This discussion, i tried to initiate atleast three times on this mailing list however we never hit on a number. a concrete number here would have really been appreciable to take further action. The second issue that came into picture is accessibility of the venue. Again an ideal venue would be easy to access from the station, the airport and through busses. so this was also one more criteria that we wanted to look at. By November 2010, i got an in principle O.K from Rajalakshmi Engineering College, Prof. Benedict has been a really supportive person, and there is a huge student community inside that can help. However, i did not go and formalise it then, because of these reasons: 1) i was worried that if our requirements change, may be Rajalakshmi Engineering College might not suffice the infrastructure required. 2) Rajalakshmi is not centrally located, and the community might find it in relatively less accessible. 3) I was also talking to a few other colleges. in case of any of these three happening then a premature commitment would have lead to a MSRIT vs RV situation which i did not want to repeat. Also it was practically impossible to proceed to step (3) because we still haven't concretised numbers, without which we cannot pitch to a college. We could afford to do it with Rajalakshmi because Mr.Benedict is part of the community but if we start formally pitching to a coll then its a one way road and we cannot backtrack our commitments. Colleges down here are very touchy. The Team ======= At various points of time there were atleast 5 - 8 people committing to helping run pycon india. But it failed to remain consistent. With regards to this there are two things that one needs to realize: 1) An active python community DOES NOT transate to an active volunteer base. it takes more then a couple of emails flying around, it requires people to step out of work and get things done. 2) WE are 8 months behind the Event, as of now apart from Venue there is no other activity required to be done on the ground. the team irrespective of the choice of venue (city) WILL EVENTUALLY FORM towards the last two months. I hope the list members appreciate these two facts. What Chennai Offers =============== I had a long talk with Mr. Benedict yesterday and Rajalakshmi is still willing to host the event. he has also gracefully accepted the fact that if venue accessibility was a concern, and IF we get a better venue then we can go with the better venue with Rajalakshmi as a fallback. some members of ChennaiPy have shown their interest in helping organize the event from the ground, please have a look at this thread for details: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/chennaipy/g4SrPNO1sjk/discussion Chennai WILL get a dedicated Volunteer base soon. it requires some time. please do not compare it with the volunteer base that the second edition of pycon india enjoyed, but do so with the first edition. this is a new city, the dynamics are different. But i am confident. Some Final Thoughts =============== There are a few things different here. Even Last time most of the activities including the decision of venue took place much later on. We have just entered February, and getting a college to commit for a venue at the end of Sept is just about impossible. It is appreciable that planning for the event has started much earlier on, but unlike in the US, we are not going to book a hotel for money, but we are trying to find a college to host it Pro Bono. The silence in ChennaiPy, is a bit natural and is not a need for concern. I have been part of a few volunteer driven events and have seen that usually ground activities start only about a month before the event. i am trying to better that record and promise a fully active team atleast 2 months before the event with most of the ground work taken care of. With these thoughts i rest my case for Chennai. and will let the community decide on where to take the next inpycon. Cheers, kausik -- Kausikram Krishnasayee Company: http://silverstripesoftware.com | Webpage: kausikram.in | Blog: blog.kausikram.in | Twitter: http://twitter.com/kausikram | Email: kausikram(a)gmail.com | Mobile: +91 9884246490

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Re: [Inpycon] venue
by vijay Feb. 10, 2011

Feb. 10, 2011

Hi, Let move forward . As said earlier , EOD friday every one is allowed to come up with team and make it happen it their city(except Bangalore). It's community conference so every will help irrespective of location in all ways they can. --- On Thu, 10/2/11, Anubha Dadhich <sethi.anubha(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Anubha Dadhich <sethi.anubha(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Inpycon] venue To: "Mailing list for the PyCon India conference" <inpycon(a)python.org> Date: Thursday, 10 February, 2011, 2:34 PM On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal(a)gmail.com> wrote: On Thu, Feb 10 2011, Anubha Dadhich wrote: [...] > This is one reason this mailing list sucks Big time. It is meant for a > closed group of ppl. You can never make it an All India conference. > Last time it was owned by Noufal, this time it will be owned by > Kenneth. I don't recollect seeing you picking anything up. Like we said earlier over here, if someone from an active user group mails with details on the number of people who are there who can help and if they have a venue, no one is going to stand in the way. This is the only way you can make ppl shut their mouth and overlook the real issue - > that it looks like the conference is owned by a handful of ppl. This is one reason why not many ppl come out to extend a helping hand and I am one of them. > No wonder It is same set of ppl who give presentations year after > year.https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#inbox/12e03ecb7535a4b4 The CFP was open, the proposals were invited from all over. Did you submit a proposal? I withdrew mine to make place for other presentations. The list has been free of this kind of partisanship till now. Please don't start it. [...] -- _______________________________________________ Inpycon mailing list Inpycon(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Inpycon mailing list Inpycon(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon

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Re: [Inpycon] venue (Anu)
by anuradha jena Feb. 8, 2011

Feb. 8, 2011

Chennai : This is a common place where so many people's relative/freind also statying ,so outsource people have an option to save their Hotel charge money for staying 2 days. But for Coimbatore it's will be agian extra charge so money matter preferrance may be less I think it's less no of trains are conencted,so reservation confirmation may give problem & air travel will be costly. ------------------------------ > > ---------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 15:16:52 +0530 > From: JAGANADH G <jaganadhg(a)gmail.com> > To: ramdaz(a)gmail.com, Mailing list for the PyCon India conference > <inpycon(a)python.org> > Subject: Re: [Inpycon] venue > Message-ID: > <AANLkTimRk6+aGa1EB57hDrK8sCdPkaZU1sCKzKzajwiH(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Give Chennai another 15 days. If nothing happens, we will look at an > > alternate avenue. > > > > > +1 . We have to take the decision as early as possible > > > > I have nothing against Coimbatore, but a bigger city preferred... > > > > Coimbatore is a bigger city with more than 200 Engineering Colleges and > more than 4 IT parks > > > Also > > how well is Comibatore connected with North India. Do people have to > > fly intto Bangalore and then drive down? > > > > > Comibatore is well connected by Air/ Rail and Road > > > > But Still if ChennaiPy can make it happen that will be great . > > Otherwise Pythonist in Coimbatore . There is no user group in Coimbatore; > but developeers are well connected > > -- > ********************************** > JAGANADH G > http://jaganadhg.freeflux.net/blog > *ILUGCBE* > http://ilugcbe.techstud.org >

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Re: [Inpycon] Inpycon Digest, Vol 22, Issue 7
by anuradha jena Feb. 8, 2011

Feb. 8, 2011

Chennai : This is a comon place where so many people's relative/freind also statying ,so outsource people have an option to save their Hotel charge money for staying 2 days. But for Coimbatore it's will be agian extra charge so money matter preferrance may be less I think it's less no of trains are conencted,so reservation confirmation may give problem & air travel will be costly. On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 4:30 PM, <inpycon-request(a)python.org> wrote: > Send Inpycon mailing list submissions to > inpycon(a)python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > inpycon-request(a)python.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > inpycon-owner(a)python.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Inpycon digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: venue (JAGANADH G) > 2. Re: venue (Noufal Ibrahim) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 15:16:52 +0530 > From: JAGANADH G <jaganadhg(a)gmail.com> > To: ramdaz(a)gmail.com, Mailing list for the PyCon India conference > <inpycon(a)python.org> > Subject: Re: [Inpycon] venue > Message-ID: > <AANLkTimRk6+aGa1EB57hDrK8sCdPkaZU1sCKzKzajwiH(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Give Chennai another 15 days. If nothing happens, we will look at an > > alternate avenue. > > > > > +1 . We have to take the decision as early as possible > > > > I have nothing against Coimbatore, but a bigger city preferred... > > > > Coimbatore is a bigger city with more than 200 Engineering Colleges and > more than 4 IT parks > > > Also > > how well is Comibatore connected with North India. Do people have to > > fly intto Bangalore and then drive down? > > > > > Comibatore is well connected by Air/ Rail and Road > > > > But Still if ChennaiPy can make it happen that will be great . > > Otherwise Pythonist in Coimbatore . There is no user group in Coimbatore; > but developeers are well connected > > -- > ********************************** > JAGANADH G > http://jaganadhg.freeflux.net/blog > *ILUGCBE* > http://ilugcbe.techstud.org >

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Getting started for 2011
by Noufal Ibrahim Feb. 2, 2011

Feb. 2, 2011

I think it's time to kick things into gear. Infrastructure first. * The logo, graphics * Then the website * Then we can go about actively soliciting sponsorships Thoughts? Opinions? --

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finalising the sponsorship amounts
by Kenneth Gonsalves Feb. 1, 2011

Feb. 1, 2011

hi, can this be done - I am talking to a company and they are doing their budget for the coming year - if we take too much time the budget may not be available for us. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves

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