Hi all, Can everyone who promised to send the address proofs please stand up... Kenneth, Can you kindly send in your mailing address where the docs need to be sent. I think we need as many states as possible, in case any document is found invalid Thanks -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065
On Tuesday 24 Nov 2009 10:45:16 pm Ramdas S wrote:
Can everyone who promised to send the address proofs please stand up...
Kenneth, Can you kindly send in your mailing address where the docs need to be sent.
I think we need as many states as possible, in case any document is found invalid
do not send anything to me, the document has to be circulated for signature, your sig will have to be attested by notary/gazetted officer etc, at which time you can also attach an attested copy of the id/address proof. I was out of station and could not finish the draft - will do so in the course of the day. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
2009/11/25 Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon@au-kbc.org>
On Tuesday 24 Nov 2009 10:45:16 pm Ramdas S wrote:
Can everyone who promised to send the address proofs please stand up...
Kenneth, Can you kindly send in your mailing address where the docs need to be sent.
I think we need as many states as possible, in case any document is found invalid
do not send anything to me, the document has to be circulated for signature, your sig will have to be attested by notary/gazetted officer etc, at which time you can also attach an attested copy of the id/address proof. I was out of station and could not finish the draft - will do so in the course of the day.
http://wiki.python.org/moin/Moa has no names. Is there a diferent page where names are being updated? - sree
On Wednesday 25 Nov 2009 10:17:27 am Sreekanth S Rameshaiah wrote:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/Moa has no names. Is there a diferent page where names are being updated?
nope - that is the place. I have finished the basic portions of the MOA and byelaws (the rest is just legal stuff). Please go through it and discuss. Also someone who knows wiki formatting please make it look nice. (I thought I knew wiki fomatting, but I was wrong). Also add your names and details to the wiki and correct spelling mistakes. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon@au-kbc.org>wrote:
On Wednesday 25 Nov 2009 10:17:27 am Sreekanth S Rameshaiah wrote:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/Moa has no names. Is there a diferent page where names are being updated?
nope - that is the place. I have finished the basic portions of the MOA and byelaws (the rest is just legal stuff). Please go through it and discuss. Also someone who knows wiki formatting please make it look nice. (I thought I knew wiki fomatting, but I was wrong). Also add your names and details to the wiki and correct spelling mistakes.
Added my name/address and did spell check. Will proceed to wiki formatting now.
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"The Name of the society shall be The Indian Society for Promotion and Development of Python Software". Why do we need such a long name? Why not just "Python India Society" or "Python India Foundation"? Anand
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology@gmail.com> wrote:
"The Name of the society shall be The Indian Society for Promotion and Development of Python Software".
Why do we need such a long name? Why not just "Python India Society" or "Python India Foundation"?
Which do you prefer, "Anand Chitipothu, representing TISPDoPS", or "Anand Chitipothu, of PIS"? -- Roshan Mathews http://teamtalk.im
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Roshan Mathews <rmathews@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology@gmail.com> wrote:
"The Name of the society shall be The Indian Society for Promotion and Development of Python Software".
Why do we need such a long name? Why not just "Python India Society" or "Python India Foundation"?
Which do you prefer, "Anand Chitipothu, representing TISPDoPS", or "Anand Chitipothu, of PIS"?
Kenneth, I presume there's some legal reason for choosing such a long name. I rather prefer something something simpler and the choices would be Python Software Foundation India -- PSF(I) India Python Software Foundation -- IPSF Indian Python Society -- IPS As Roshan pointed, we must also think about the acronyms also.... Do advise and clarify
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Python Software Foundation India -- PSF(I) India Python Software Foundation -- IPSF
Above two sound as if we are indian chapter of PSF. We should avoid such confusion.
Indian Python Society -- IPS
another entry: Python Society of India - PSI - Anand
On Wednesday 25 Nov 2009 4:32:58 pm Anand Chitipothu wrote:
Python Software Foundation India -- PSF(I) India Python Software Foundation -- IPSF
Above two sound as if we are indian chapter of PSF. We should avoid such confusion.
Indian Python Society -- IPS
another entry:
Python Society of India - PSI
name is up to you guys to choose - legally speaking it has to have 'Indian' or 'India' in it, it has to have 'society' in it and it cannot have 'foundation' in it. PSI sounds good to me. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
On Wednesday 25 Nov 2009 6:11:30 pm Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
name is up to you guys to choose - legally speaking it has to have 'Indian' or 'India' in it, it has to have 'society' in it and it cannot have 'foundation' in it. PSI sounds good to me.
btw, the name has to be approved by the central government so it would be a good idea if the word 'software' is also added - else the concerned ministry could refer the thing to the ministry of wildlife/forestry for comments which might delay things. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon@au-kbc.org>wrote:
On Wednesday 25 Nov 2009 6:11:30 pm Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
name is up to you guys to choose - legally speaking it has to have 'Indian' or 'India' in it, it has to have 'society' in it and it cannot have 'foundation' in it. PSI sounds good to me.
btw, the name has to be approved by the central government so it would be a good idea if the word 'software' is also added - else the concerned ministry could refer the thing to the ministry of wildlife/forestry for comments which might delay things.
Python Software Society of India (PSSI)
On Wednesday 25 Nov 2009 6:42:46 pm Ramdas S wrote:
Python Software Society of India (PSSI)
or Indian Python Software Society (IPSS) I think we should settle on one of the above and move to more important things like membership categories and restrictions on committee membership and terms of office bearers. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon@au-kbc.org>wrote:
I think we should settle on one of the above and move to more important things like membership categories and restrictions on committee membership and terms of office bearers. --
+1 Choose any name - personally I am neutral though long names are stand-offish. We should read the current draft in full and suggest changes (if any) in the other sections which Kenneth mentions. -- --Anand
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Roshan Mathews <rmathews@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology@gmail.com> wrote:
"The Name of the society shall be The Indian Society for Promotion and Development of Python Software".
Why do we need such a long name? Why not just "Python India Society" or "Python India Foundation"?
Which do you prefer, "Anand Chitipothu, representing TISPDoPS", or "Anand Chitipothu, of PIS"?
Based on my experience you should have the word 'software' in the society name. Else it can lead to confusion with babus at a later stage. Also, if possible try avoiding a name starting with Python as it is a wildlife creature and some stupid babu can raise an exception which will be difficult to catch, leading to a segfault :) Rest as Kenneth has pointed, having India or Indian is required to have an India wide society. regards Vivek -- The hidden harmony is better than the obvious!!
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Vivek Khurana <hiddenharmony@gmail.com>wrote:
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Roshan Mathews <rmathews@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology@gmail.com> wrote:
"The Name of the society shall be The Indian Society for Promotion and Development of Python Software".
Why do we need such a long name? Why not just "Python India Society" or "Python India Foundation"?
Which do you prefer, "Anand Chitipothu, representing TISPDoPS", or "Anand Chitipothu, of PIS"?
Based on my experience you should have the word 'software' in the society name. Else it can lead to confusion with babus at a later stage. Also, if possible try avoiding a name starting with Python as it is a wildlife creature and some stupid babu can raise an exception which will be difficult to catch, leading to a segfault :)
Rest as Kenneth has pointed, having India or Indian is required to have an India wide society.
Python India Software Society seems fine except that it doesn't satisfy your non-wildlife requirement. I guess we can convince the babu that we are not interested in the reptile, but in the language :)
regards Vivek
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On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai@gmail.com> wrote:
Python India Software Society seems fine except that it doesn't satisfy your non-wildlife requirement. I guess we can convince the babu that we are not interested in the reptile, but in the language :)
Though Python India Software Society sounds interesting but I dont think we plan to register pythonindiasoftwaresociety.org or something similar. If we go with PISS.org or PISS.org.in the domain will be blocked at lots of places including *google* searches. So we have to think some other combination of four words above. regards Vivek -- The hidden harmony is better than the obvious!!
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Vivek Khurana <hiddenharmony@gmail.com>wrote:
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai@gmail.com> wrote:
Python India Software Society seems fine except that it doesn't satisfy your non-wildlife requirement. I guess we can convince the babu that we are not interested in the reptile, but in the language :)
Though Python India Software Society sounds interesting but I dont think we plan to register pythonindiasoftwaresociety.org or something similar. If we go with PISS.org or PISS.org.in the domain will be blocked at lots of places including *google* searches. So we have to think some other combination of four words above.
Then maybe "Python India Software Foundation" itself.
regards Vivek
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On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai@gmail.com> wrote:
Then maybe "Python India Software Foundation" itself.
We cant have foundation in the name as it is a Society. regards Vivek -- The hidden harmony is better than the obvious!!
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Vivek Khurana <hiddenharmony@gmail.com>wrote:
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai@gmail.com> wrote:
Then maybe "Python India Software Foundation" itself.
We cant have foundation in the name as it is a Society.
I give up... :(
regards Vivek
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For crying out loud, this is becoming a 5 star bikeshed. Python Software Society of India sounds fine. Unless someone has some *legal* issue with this, I think we'll go ahead with this. A working society with a suboptimal name is far better than an a non-existent one with a really awesome name. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in
On Thursday 26 Nov 2009 6:15:33 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
For crying out loud, this is becoming a 5 star bikeshed.
Python Software Society of India sounds fine. Unless someone has some legal issue with this, I think we'll go ahead with this. A working society with a suboptimal name is far better than an a non-existent one with a really awesome name.
anyway whatever we decide some babu is going to change it - as long as the name has India, python, software and society, we have to live with it. I will propose PSSI and see what happens - now please get on to discussion of the more important issues. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal@gmail.com> wrote:
For crying out loud, this is becoming a 5 star bikeshed.
Python Software Society of India sounds fine. Unless someone has some *legal* issue with this, I think we'll go ahead with this. A working society with a suboptimal name is far better than an a non-existent one with a really awesome name.
Can we replace Python with Pythonic ? I had a word with few people who have registered societies earlier, here and they suggested this. Also check if the society needs to spell its major activity area in teh name itself. In this case we can add word 'Promotion' to the name. Just few suggestions. regards Vivek -- The hidden harmony is better than the obvious!!
Name Freezed. As of now it shall be PSSI. Kenneth the entire MoA looks fine, wondering if we should add a clause on handling of bank accounts? as in who will be the signatories and how many signatures are required to realize a cheque ? -- Kausikram Krishnasayee Company: http://silverstripesoftware.com | Webpage: kausikram.net | Blog: chaosbudha.blogspot.com | Twitter: http://twitter.com/kausikram | Email: kausikram@gmail.com | Mobile: +91 9884246490
On Thursday 26 Nov 2009 11:09:10 pm kausikram krishnasayee wrote:
Kenneth the entire MoA looks fine, wondering if we should add a clause on handling of bank accounts? as in who will be the signatories and how many signatures are required to realize a cheque ?
that is all legal stuff - usually upto a certain limit, one person - otherwise two. I have to do some research on how this is done with netbanking. Anyone knows? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon@au-kbc.org> wrote:
that is all legal stuff - usually upto a certain limit, one person - otherwise two. I have to do some research on how this is done with netbanking. Anyone knows?
Different banks offer different solutions. Best to ero down on the bank we want to operate the bank account and ask the manager directly. regards Vivek -- The hidden harmony is better than the obvious!!
On Friday 27 Nov 2009 9:26:39 am Vivek Khurana wrote:
that is all legal stuff - usually upto a certain limit, one person - otherwise two. I have to do some research on how this is done with netbanking. Anyone knows?
Different banks offer different solutions. Best to ero down on the bank we want to operate the bank account and ask the manager directly.
we have axis, icici and hdfc in ooty - I personally like axis. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah <sree@mahiti.org>wrote:
2009/11/25 Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon@au-kbc.org>
On Tuesday 24 Nov 2009 10:45:16 pm Ramdas S wrote:
Can everyone who promised to send the address proofs please stand up...
Kenneth, Can you kindly send in your mailing address where the docs need to be sent.
I think we need as many states as possible, in case any document is found invalid
do not send anything to me, the document has to be circulated for signature, your sig will have to be attested by notary/gazetted officer etc, at which time you can also attach an attested copy of the id/address proof. I was out of station and could not finish the draft - will do so in the course of the day.
http://wiki.python.org/moin/Moa has no names. Is there a diferent page where names are being updated?
http://wiki.python.org/moin/Moa_Signees, just created.
- sree
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Anand Balachandran Pillai -
Anand Chitipothu -
kausikram krishnasayee -
Kenneth Gonsalves -
Noufal Ibrahim -
Ramdas S -
Roshan Mathews -
Sreekanth S Rameshaiah -
Vivek Khurana