
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/18/2011 10:07 AM, Adam GROSZER wrote:
Adam GROSZER, 18.10.2011 08:56:
someone, please compile and upload windows binaries to pypi.
Many users forget that providing Windows builds actually costs time and money. Sometimes, they can be built with free software, in which case
On 10/18/2011 02:41 PM, Stefan Behnel wrote: they
cost only time, but that, at least to some people, is also money.
In short, you get what you've paid for.
That being said, Christoph Gohlke provides unofficial Windows builds of lxml. I can't make any guarantees for them, because they are binary builds, but I'm certainly grateful that he does it because then I don't have to.
The teeny-tiny problems with that: 1. zc.buildout uses pypi 2. windows users usually have no compiler 3. having no binaries on pypi and no compiler wrecks buildout
http://winbot.zope.org/builders/z3c.form_py_265_32/builds/312
I don't think Stefan "missed" anything: the issue is that folks who *want* the Windows binaries aren't paying for them, in either time or money. Christolph *is* paying with one or both, but isn't deeply enough connected with the project to make his efforts recognizable as "official."
4. adding differences between linux and win buildouts s...s 5. /me gets bugged
https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2011-October/043565.html
As the person suggesting that we decomission the breaking Windows builds, I'm very much sympathetic to Stefan here: the "helplessness" of Windows developers to build their own software keeps being cast as a problem for others to deal with. Sufficiently motivated Windows developers *can* figure out how to build binaries: it seems to me that what we have here is an insufficient supply of them.
6. providing binaries works well for zope/ZTK
You, Hanno, and Sidnei donate time to make automating those builds work, the Zope Foundation donates the money to pay for the build machine, and Microsoft donates the license for the compiler: all of which proves Stefan's point. Maybe I'm missing your point -- are you asking Stefan or somebody else to build lxml on your behalf? Or are you asking that the folks who can and will build them be allowed to upload those binaries to PyPI? Tres. - -- =================================================================== Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tseaver@palladion.com Palladion Software "Excellence by Design" http://palladion.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6ePo8ACgkQ+gerLs4ltQ6HMgCgzPvK27w4FqnGAwC4tf01h8Dw QQQAoMvS+gdoYq5ausLjvNUTpmEYFo7v =HMPR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----