On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 4:56 AM, Adam GROSZER wrote:

Hello,

(Sidnei?) or someone, please compile and upload windows binaries to pypi.

I cannot do that anymore, but there are other people in the list that successfully managed to do so. -- Sidnei

Adam GROSZER, 18.10.2011 08:56:

someone, please compile and upload windows binaries to pypi.

Many users forget that providing Windows builds actually costs time and money. Sometimes, they can be built with free software, in which case they cost only time, but that, at least to some people, is also money. In short, you get what you've paid for. That being said, Christoph Gohlke provides unofficial Windows builds of lxml. I can't make any guarantees for them, because they are binary builds, but I'm certainly grateful that he does it because then I don't have to. http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/#lxml Stefan

Adam GROSZER, 18.10.2011 08:56:

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someone, please compile and upload windows binaries to pypi.

Many users forget that providing Windows builds actually costs time and money. Sometimes, they can be built with free software, in which case

On 10/18/2011 02:41 PM, Stefan Behnel wrote: they

cost only time, but that, at least to some people, is also money.

In short, you get what you've paid for.

That being said, Christoph Gohlke provides unofficial Windows builds of lxml. I can't make any guarantees for them, because they are binary builds, but I'm certainly grateful that he does it because then I don't have to.

http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/#lxml

The teeny-tiny problems with that: 1. zc.buildout uses pypi 2. windows users usually have no compiler 3. having no binaries on pypi and no compiler wrecks buildout http://winbot.zope.org/builders/z3c.form_py_265_32/builds/312 4. adding differences between linux and win buildouts s...s 5. /me gets bugged https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2011-October/043565.html 6. providing binaries works well for zope/ZTK -- Best regards, Adam GROSZER -- Quote of the day: Mere change is not growth. Growth is the synthesis of change and continuity, and where there is no continuity there is no growth. - C.S. Lewis

On 19 October 2011 04:05, Tres Seaver wrote:

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Adam GROSZER, 18.10.2011 08:56:

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someone, please compile and upload windows binaries to pypi.

Many users forget that providing Windows builds actually costs time and money. Sometimes, they can be built with free software, in which case

On 10/18/2011 02:41 PM, Stefan Behnel wrote: they

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cost only time, but that, at least to some people, is also money.

In short, you get what you've paid for.

That being said, Christoph Gohlke provides unofficial Windows builds of lxml. I can't make any guarantees for them, because they are binary builds, but I'm certainly grateful that he does it because then I don't have to.

http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/#lxml

The teeny-tiny problems with that: 1. zc.buildout uses pypi 2. windows users usually have no compiler 3. having no binaries on pypi and no compiler wrecks buildout

http://winbot.zope.org/builders/z3c.form_py_265_32/builds/312

I don't think Stefan "missed" anything:  the issue is that folks who *want* the Windows binaries aren't paying for them, in either time or money.  Christolph *is* paying with one or both, but isn't deeply enough connected with the project to make his efforts recognizable as "official."

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4. adding differences between linux and win buildouts s...s 5. /me gets bugged

https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2011-October/043565.html

As the person suggesting that we decomission the breaking Windows builds, I'm very much sympathetic to Stefan here:  the "helplessness" of Windows developers to build their own software keeps being cast as a problem for others to deal with.  Sufficiently motivated Windows developers *can* figure out how to build binaries:  it seems to me that what we have here is an insufficient supply of them.

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6. providing binaries works well for zope/ZTK

You, Hanno, and Sidnei donate time to make automating those builds work, the Zope Foundation donates the money to pay for the build machine, and Microsoft donates the license for the compiler:  all of which proves Stefan's point.

Maybe I'm missing your point -- are you asking Stefan or somebody else to build lxml on your behalf?  Or are you asking that the folks who can and will build them be allowed to upload those binaries to PyPI?

I guess ideally compiling and uploading lxml windows binaries would be as simple as compiling and uploading zope.* windows binaries, i.e. something that can be automated by a wineggbuilder. For that to happen someone needs to distil the experience of Sindei and Christoph's builds into lxml's setup.py (much like it has an option to download and compile a static build of libxml2/libxslt on unix like operating systems.) Laurence

Am 18.10.2011 14:41, schrieb Stefan Behnel:

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Adam GROSZER, 18.10.2011 08:56: Many users forget that providing Windows builds actually costs time and money. Sometimes, they can be built with free software, in which case

The freely available Platform SDK is enough to compile lxml for py2.6 and up. Just search this list archives for my instructions on setting up the proper environment variables so distutils can find the compiler and linker. There's even a .bat file I provided to do so. On Saturday, October 22, 2011, Christian Heimes wrote: they

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cost only time, but that, at least to some people, is also money.

In short, you get what you've paid for.

That being said, Christoph Gohlke provides unofficial Windows builds of lxml. I can't make any guarantees for them, because they are binary builds, but I'm certainly grateful that he does it because then I don't have to.

http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/#lxml

Brian Curtin was able to get a bunch of free MSDN subscriptions for Python developers. The MSDN subscription includes free access to Windows and Visual Studio downloads and licences. He might be able to get additional subscriptions. It still costs time to build Windows binaries but at least you might get free access to the entire tool chain.

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Lee E. Brown, 25.12.2011 18:12:

I was just looking over in PyPi for the oft-fabled windows binary compilation for LXML 2.3.2

If anyone has built a windows binary with libxml2 and libxslt folded in I would greatly and sincerely appreciate a link to downloadable files. I have three WinXPpro machines to build up and having the windows binaries would be a big help.

http://lxml.de/FAQ.html#where-are-the-binary-builds Stefan