Mailman-coders December 2004

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[ mailman-Patches-657951 ] Generate RSS summary in archives
by SourceForge.net 19 Aug '22

19 Aug '22

Patches item #657951, was opened at 2002-12-23 14:17 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by bwarsaw You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=657951&group_i… Category: Pipermail Group: Mailman 2.2 / 3.0 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 7 Submitted By: A.M. Kuchling (akuchling) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Generate RSS summary in archives Initial Comment: Here's a first-draft patch. Things that need fixing: * The generated RSS feed needs to be validated. (It passed the W3C's RDF validator, but RSS validators still need to be checked.) * The date should be given in YYYY-MM-DD format, which requires parsing the .fromdate attribute. * How do I get the URL for an archived message? The generated RSS currently just uses the filename, which is wrong. How do I get at the PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL setting? * Getting the most recent N postings is inefficient; the code loops through all of the archived messages and takes the last N of them. We could add .last() and .prev() methods to the Database class, but that's more ambitious for 2.1beta than I like. (Would be nice to get this into 2.1final...) * The list index page should have a LINK element pointing to the RSS file. Please make any comments you have, and I'll rework the patch accordingly. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2003-04-18 18:43 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 Andrew, to get the url for the archived message use mlist.GetBaseArchiveURL(), which knows about private vs. public archives, the host name and the list name. From there you should be able to tack on just the part of the path under "archives/private/listname". See Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py for an example. Only other minor comment: NUM_ARTICLES can probably go in Defaults.py.in ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Justin Mason (jmason) Date: 2003-03-26 16:49 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=935 big thumbs up from me too. Much better solution than http://taint.org/mmrss/ ;) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Uche Ogbuji (uche) Date: 2003-03-17 20:09 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=38966 I'd like to add my vote to this item. This is a fantastic idea, Andrew. Thanks. --Uche ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: A.M. Kuchling (akuchling) Date: 2002-12-23 15:42 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=11375 Updated patch: * Dates are now rendered as ISO-8601 (date only, not the time of the message) * By hard-wiring 2002-December, I got the RSS to validate using Mark Pilgrim's validator. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: captain larry (captainlarry) Date: 2002-12-23 14:36 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=147905 Just voting for support here. This is *great* thanks for the patch and I hope the maintainers include it as soon as it's appropriate :) Adam. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2002-12-23 14:27 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 Deferring until post-2.1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: A.M. Kuchling (akuchling) Date: 2002-12-23 14:21 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=11375 Argh; SF choked on the file upload. Attaching the patch again... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=657951&group_i…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1092895 ] typo: delivery instead of deliver
by SourceForge.net 30 Dec '04

30 Dec '04

Bugs item #1092895, was opened at 2004-12-29 14:51 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by bwarsaw You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1092895&group_… Category: None >Group: 2.1 (stable) >Status: Closed >Resolution: Duplicate Priority: 5 Submitted By: Whit (whit_anderson) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: typo: delivery instead of deliver Initial Comment: On the mailing list membership configuration page, next to the last option ("Do you want to receive messages that do not match any t opic filter"), last sentence of first paragaph has a typo. "delivery" is used instead of "deliver." See screen shot. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2004-12-30 17:44 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 Already fixed in CVS for 2.1.6. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1092895&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1093176 ] Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4
by SourceForge.net 30 Dec '04

30 Dec '04

Bugs item #1093176, was opened at 2004-12-30 04:46 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by bwarsaw You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1093176&group_… Category: configuring/installing Group: 2.1 (stable) >Status: Closed >Resolution: Invalid Priority: 5 Submitted By: htitus (htitus) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4 Initial Comment: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 68, in run_main immediate=1) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py", line 52, in __init__ Logger.__init__(self, category, nofail, immediate) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 49, in __init__ self.__get_f() File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 67, in __get_f 1) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/codecs.py", line 566, in open file = __builtin__.open(filename, mode, buffering) IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/logs/error' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Python information: Variable Value sys.version 2.3.3 (#2, Feb 17 2004, 11:45:40) [GCC 3.3.2 (Mandrake Linux 10.0 3.3.2-6mdk)] sys.executable /usr/bin/python sys.prefix /usr sys.exec_prefix /usr sys.path /usr sys.platform linux2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Environment variables: Variable Value SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/2.0.48 (Mandrake Linux/5mdk) mod_perl/1.99_11 Perl/v5.8.3 mod_ssl/2.0.48 OpenSSL/0.9.7c PHP/4.3.4 SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/options SERVER_SIGNATURE Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/2.0.48 (Mandrake Linux/5mdk) mod_perl/1.99_11 Perl/v5.8.3 mod_ssl/2.0.48 OpenSSL/0.9.7c PHP/4.3.4 Server at mon.serveur.net Port 80 REQUEST_METHOD GET PATH_INFO /mailman/antoine(a)serveur.net SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.1 QUERY_STRING HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1) HTTP_CONNECTION Keep-Alive SERVER_NAME mon.serveur.net REMOTE_ADDR 192.168.0.4 PATH_TRANSLATED /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/antoine(a)serveur.net SERVER_PORT 80 SERVER_ADDR 192.168.0.100 DOCUMENT_ROOT /var/www/html PYTHONPATH /usr/lib/mailman SCRIPT_FILENAME /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/options SERVER_ADMIN root@localhost SCRIPT_URI http://mon.serveur.net/mailman/options/mailman/antoine@serveur.net HTTP_HOST mon.serveur.net SCRIPT_URL /mailman/options/mailman/antoine(a)serveur.net REQUEST_URI /mailman/options/mailman/antoine(a)serveur.net HTTP_ACCEPT image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, application/x-shockwave-flash, application/vnd.ms-excel, application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, application/msword, */* GATEWAY_INTERFACE CGI/1.1 REMOTE_PORT 1351 HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE fr HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING gzip, deflate ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2004-12-30 10:06 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 run bin/check_perms ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1093176&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1093176 ] Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4
by SourceForge.net 30 Dec '04

30 Dec '04

Bugs item #1093176, was opened at 2004-12-30 09:46 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1093176&group_… Category: configuring/installing Group: 2.1 (stable) Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: htitus (htitus) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4 Initial Comment: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 68, in run_main immediate=1) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py", line 52, in __init__ Logger.__init__(self, category, nofail, immediate) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 49, in __init__ self.__get_f() File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 67, in __get_f 1) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/codecs.py", line 566, in open file = __builtin__.open(filename, mode, buffering) IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/logs/error' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Python information: Variable Value sys.version 2.3.3 (#2, Feb 17 2004, 11:45:40) [GCC 3.3.2 (Mandrake Linux 10.0 3.3.2-6mdk)] sys.executable /usr/bin/python sys.prefix /usr sys.exec_prefix /usr sys.path /usr sys.platform linux2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Environment variables: Variable Value SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/2.0.48 (Mandrake Linux/5mdk) mod_perl/1.99_11 Perl/v5.8.3 mod_ssl/2.0.48 OpenSSL/0.9.7c PHP/4.3.4 SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/options SERVER_SIGNATURE Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/2.0.48 (Mandrake Linux/5mdk) mod_perl/1.99_11 Perl/v5.8.3 mod_ssl/2.0.48 OpenSSL/0.9.7c PHP/4.3.4 Server at mon.serveur.net Port 80 REQUEST_METHOD GET PATH_INFO /mailman/antoine(a)serveur.net SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.1 QUERY_STRING HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1) HTTP_CONNECTION Keep-Alive SERVER_NAME mon.serveur.net REMOTE_ADDR 192.168.0.4 PATH_TRANSLATED /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/antoine(a)serveur.net SERVER_PORT 80 SERVER_ADDR 192.168.0.100 DOCUMENT_ROOT /var/www/html PYTHONPATH /usr/lib/mailman SCRIPT_FILENAME /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/options SERVER_ADMIN root@localhost SCRIPT_URI http://mon.serveur.net/mailman/options/mailman/antoine@serveur.net HTTP_HOST mon.serveur.net SCRIPT_URL /mailman/options/mailman/antoine(a)serveur.net REQUEST_URI /mailman/options/mailman/antoine(a)serveur.net HTTP_ACCEPT image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, application/x-shockwave-flash, application/vnd.ms-excel, application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, application/msword, */* GATEWAY_INTERFACE CGI/1.1 REMOTE_PORT 1351 HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE fr HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING gzip, deflate ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1093176&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1085651 ] Broken PGP/MIME signature of messages with attachments
by SourceForge.net 29 Dec '04

29 Dec '04

Bugs item #1085651, was opened at 2004-12-15 03:54 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by egagnon You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1085651&group_… >Category: mail delivery >Group: 2.1 (stable) Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Etienne M. Gagnon (egagnon) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Broken PGP/MIME signature of messages with attachments Initial Comment: Hi, When I send a PGP/MIME signed message *with* attachments (in addition to the PGP signature) to a Mailman-based mailing list, Firefox/Enigmail fails to verify the signature of the message forwarded by mailman. I have uploaded an example message with a broken signature as attachment to this bug. You can also see how Mailman's automatic archives don't even handle such messages correctly by looking at how it archived that message at: http://sablecc.org/lists/sablecc-user/2004-December/000159.html I've looked in the bugs database and found that a somewhat related problem was reported a while ago, but note that the current bug is different. The original bug was about PGP/MIME signed messages without attachments that were handled incorrectly by Enigmail. This one is about messages with attachments, and it is likely that the bug is Mailman's, at least accroding to the reply I got in: http://bugzilla.mozdev.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8466 Thanks for your help (and for the magnificient software)! Etienne ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Etienne M. Gagnon (egagnon) Date: 2004-12-29 23:03 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=15365 Any update? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1085651&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1092895 ] typo: delivery instead of deliver
by SourceForge.net 29 Dec '04

29 Dec '04

Bugs item #1092895, was opened at 2004-12-29 13:51 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1092895&group_… Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Whit (whit_anderson) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: typo: delivery instead of deliver Initial Comment: On the mailing list membership configuration page, next to the last option ("Do you want to receive messages that do not match any t opic filter"), last sentence of first paragaph has a typo. "delivery" is used instead of "deliver." See screen shot. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1092895&group_…

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[ mailman-Patches-1085501 ] Welcome Message
by SourceForge.net 27 Dec '04

27 Dec '04

Patches item #1085501, was opened at 2004-12-14 19:51 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by bwarsaw You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=1085501&group_… Category: list administration Group: Mailman 2.1 >Status: Closed >Resolution: Accepted Priority: 5 Submitted By: Grant Bowman (grantbow) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Welcome Message Initial Comment: Problem: Currently, welcome message text can only be prepended to a fixed subscribeack.txt. Welcome messages should be fully customizable by list administrators that do not have command line/shell access to their mailman installations, an arrangement that is not unusual for hosted ISPs (like mine). Solution: The following one line patch allows the use of the existing editing capability with the subscribeack.txt file. Result: Mailman list administrators without shell access will have more control and can customize welcome messages to exactly meet the needs of their subscribers. --- Note: If this is the right approach I would be happy to follow up with additional patches to adjust the text of the existing "HTML selection" page and other appropriate places. http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2003-June/029676.html Note: I obtained this idea from this message by Todd <Freedom_Lover at pobox.com> to Mailman-users and have created this patch for the CVS version of mailman. --- Mailman/Cgi/edithtml.py.orig 2001-11-30 00:00:18.000000000 -0800 +++ Mailman/Cgi/edithtml.py 2004-12-10 12:09:31.000000000 -0800 @@ -42,6 +42,7 @@ template_data = ( ('listinfo.html', _('General list information page')), ('subscribe.html', _('Subscribe results page')) + ('subscribeack.txt', _('Welcome email text file')), ('options.html', _('User specific options page')), ) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2004-12-27 23:06 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 Accepted for Mailman 2.1.6. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=1085501&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1090439 ] password reminder can be shunt when encoding usascii
by SourceForge.net 23 Dec '04

23 Dec '04

Bugs item #1090439, was opened at 2004-12-23 17:31 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1090439&group_… Category: None Group: 2.1 (stable) Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Bernhard Reiter (ber) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: password reminder can be shunt when encoding usascii Initial Comment: One user here has a password with characters which are not in usascii. The default language of the Mailman installation is English (USA) which gives usascii as encoding. This is a stable Debian with Python 2.1.3. The password reminders to be send to this person are shunted because of: Uncaught runner exception: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in range(128) File "/home/services/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/home/services/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/home/services/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py", line 73, in _dispose self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/home/services/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 152, in process deliveryfunc(mlist, msg, msgdata, envsender, refused, conn) File "/home/services/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 356, in bulkdeliver msgtext = msg.as_string() File "/home/services/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 208, in as_string g.flatten(self, unixfrom=unixfrom) File "/home/services/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 102, in flatten self._write(msg) File "/home/services/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 130, in _write self._dispatch(msg) File "/home/services/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 156, in _dispatch meth(msg) File "/home/services/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py", line 202, in _handle_text self._fp.write(payload) UnicodeError: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in range(128) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1090439&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1090208 ] Password reminder bug (wrong "From" address, etc)
by SourceForge.net 23 Dec '04

23 Dec '04

Bugs item #1090208, was opened at 2004-12-23 05:13 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by ppsys You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1090208&group_… Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Brett Garrett (dolphyn) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Password reminder bug (wrong "From" address, etc) Initial Comment: Summary of bug: On a system with multiple domains and multiple lists, the password reminder sometimes contains information about a list to which the user is not subscribed, or in some cases, about a list that does not exist. Likewise, the "From" address of the password reminder can be incorrect. Details: The cron script "mailpasswds" contains the following code: siteowner = Utils.get_site_email(host, 'owner') sitereq = Utils.get_site_email(host, 'request') sitebounce = Utils.get_site_email (host, 'bounces') The problem is, this code is oblivious to the user's actual subscriptions. On a CPanel server, for example, it always defaults to mailman-owner@host, etc. This results in confusion among users. Since the "From" address of the reminder is mailman- owner@host and that address is also referenced in the mail, users send their questions to that address -- which may go to the server administrator, or to nobody at all, instead of the appropriate list owner. On my setup (a CPanel system) the following replacement code appears to correct most of the problem (in combination with an "import string" statement near the top of the script): siteowner = string.replace ( listaddr, '@', '- owner@' ) sitereq = string.replace ( listaddr, '@', '- request@' ) sitebounce = string.replace ( listaddr, '@', '- bounces@' ) I have not tested it thoroughly, but I think it corrects the siteowner and sitereq values. (For some reason the corrected sitebounce address does not have any effect. The reminder messages still have a return-path of mailman-bounces@servername instead of the appropriate listname-bounces@host. But, I don't think this matters as much as making sure the siteowner and sitereq addresses are correct.) Thank you! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Richard Barrett (ppsys) Date: 2004-12-23 11:12 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=75166 CPanel sells a modified version of Mailman as part of its commercial hosting product. They have not made their modifications available to the Open Source developers and users of Mailman. Unless you can identify that this problem is present with unmodified, stable Mailman distribution source from sourceforge you will have to take this matter up with your ISP/or CPanel. This is not least because without the source code of the CPanel modifications it will be problematic diagnosing the cause of the problem you observe. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1090208&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1090208 ] Password reminder bug (wrong "From" address, etc)
by SourceForge.net 22 Dec '04

22 Dec '04

Bugs item #1090208, was opened at 2004-12-22 21:13 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1090208&group_… Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Brett Garrett (dolphyn) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Password reminder bug (wrong "From" address, etc) Initial Comment: Summary of bug: On a system with multiple domains and multiple lists, the password reminder sometimes contains information about a list to which the user is not subscribed, or in some cases, about a list that does not exist. Likewise, the "From" address of the password reminder can be incorrect. Details: The cron script "mailpasswds" contains the following code: siteowner = Utils.get_site_email(host, 'owner') sitereq = Utils.get_site_email(host, 'request') sitebounce = Utils.get_site_email (host, 'bounces') The problem is, this code is oblivious to the user's actual subscriptions. On a CPanel server, for example, it always defaults to mailman-owner@host, etc. This results in confusion among users. Since the "From" address of the reminder is mailman- owner@host and that address is also referenced in the mail, users send their questions to that address -- which may go to the server administrator, or to nobody at all, instead of the appropriate list owner. On my setup (a CPanel system) the following replacement code appears to correct most of the problem (in combination with an "import string" statement near the top of the script): siteowner = string.replace ( listaddr, '@', '- owner@' ) sitereq = string.replace ( listaddr, '@', '- request@' ) sitebounce = string.replace ( listaddr, '@', '- bounces@' ) I have not tested it thoroughly, but I think it corrects the siteowner and sitereq values. (For some reason the corrected sitebounce address does not have any effect. The reminder messages still have a return-path of mailman-bounces@servername instead of the appropriate listname-bounces@host. But, I don't think this matters as much as making sure the siteowner and sitereq addresses are correct.) Thank you! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1090208&group_…

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