Mailman 3 January 2005 - Mailman-coders

[ mailman-Feature Requests-1104433 ] Configurable per-user/per-subscription subject prefix
by SourceForge.net Jan. 19, 2005

Jan. 19, 2005

Feature Requests item #1104433, was opened at 2005-01-18 12:44 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by rossigee You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350103&aid=1104433&group_… Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 3 Submitted By: Ross Golder (rossigee) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Configurable per-user/per-subscription subject prefix Initial Comment: I've had a request from a list member who would like us to add a subject prefix to all the lists on our server (mail.gnome.org), as his mail client can't do any kind of automatic filtering. We are obviously reluctant to change the status quo, as many people (e.g. PDA/mobile users) would then respond asking us to remove them. Instead, I decided to file this feature request to make it (per-subscription) configurable. It would have one of three possible values; use the default list setting, override on or override off. This would allow users to please themselves, and in some cases overcome problems caused by limitations in their mailclient. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Ross Golder (rossigee) Date: 2005-01-19 08:43 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=20872 Some lists use prefixes, some don't. Some users that subscribe to many lists want consistency, but we don't want to have to determine and enforce a site-wide policy and deal with all the ensuing arguments. This feature shifts the decision from the list/site managers to the individuals users. Basic headache prevention. The main argument for prefixes seems to be 'I can quickly identify what the mail is about in my inbox', where users haven't got or don't use their client's header filtering features. The main argument against prefixes seems to be 'I just get a screenful of list prefixes when I try to view my list folders', where users are trying to use mail clients in a low screen resolution (e.g. old VGA screen, palm/PDA device, mobile phone, small desktop window whatever). Sorry for misfiling it. Haven't used SF for a while - forgot that feature requests and bugs aren't mixed like in bugzilla. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Tokio Kikuchi (tkikuchi) Date: 2005-01-19 02:45 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=67709 This should be submitted as Feature Request. BTW, many mailing list users are happy with subject prefixes. Why not GNOME users? ;-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350103&aid=1104433&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1104646 ] Messages Duplicated to Similar List Names
by SourceForge.net Jan. 19, 2005

Jan. 19, 2005

Bugs item #1104646, was opened at 2005-01-18 17:34 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by tkikuchi You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1104646&group_… Category: mail delivery Group: 2.1 (stable) Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: istvans (istvans) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Messages Duplicated to Similar List Names Initial Comment: We have 2 mailings lists for students: One is called "undergrads", and the other is called "grads". When a message is posted to either list alone the messages process correctly. Subscribers receive only one copy for each list to which they are subscribed. However if BOTH lists are included in a single TO: in a message (So To: grads@host, undergrads@host) the end result is 3 (THREE) messages: One message from [Grads] One message from [Undergrads] One message from [Grads][Undergrads] these lists are not configured to be umbrella lists. All other lists behave correctly so if messages are sent to the lists called: Faculty, Staff, General the message processing behaves correctly. A single message addressed as follows: TO: staff@host, faculty@host, general@ host, grads@host delivers only a single message to each subscriber. However if the To is modified to include both the Grads and Undergrads a message will be sent to [Grads][Undergrads] The only issue seems to be with the word "grads" being a complete subset of the word "undergrads" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Tokio Kikuchi (tkikuchi) Date: 2005-01-19 04:31 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=67709 This does not occur in my similar environment. Isn't this a MTA problem? It might occur if you are using procmail as a local mailer and utilizing regular expressions in sorting the messages. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1104646&group_…

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[ mailman-Feature Requests-1104433 ] Configurable per-user/per-subscription subject prefix
by SourceForge.net Jan. 19, 2005

Jan. 19, 2005

Feature Requests item #1104433, was opened at 2005-01-18 12:44 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by tkikuchi You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350103&aid=1104433&group_… >Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None >Priority: 3 Submitted By: Ross Golder (rossigee) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Configurable per-user/per-subscription subject prefix Initial Comment: I've had a request from a list member who would like us to add a subject prefix to all the lists on our server (mail.gnome.org), as his mail client can't do any kind of automatic filtering. We are obviously reluctant to change the status quo, as many people (e.g. PDA/mobile users) would then respond asking us to remove them. Instead, I decided to file this feature request to make it (per-subscription) configurable. It would have one of three possible values; use the default list setting, override on or override off. This would allow users to please themselves, and in some cases overcome problems caused by limitations in their mailclient. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Tokio Kikuchi (tkikuchi) Date: 2005-01-19 02:45 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=67709 This should be submitted as Feature Request. BTW, many mailing list users are happy with subject prefixes. Why not GNOME users? ;-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350103&aid=1104433&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1104645 ] INSTALL points to wrong location in 2.1.6b1
by SourceForge.net Jan. 19, 2005

Jan. 19, 2005

Bugs item #1104645, was opened at 2005-01-18 17:32 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by tkikuchi You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1104645&group_… Category: documentation Group: 2.1 beta >Status: Closed >Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Submitted By: Thomas Arendsen Hein (thomas_ah) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: INSTALL points to wrong location in 2.1.6b1 Initial Comment: INSTALL in 2.1.6b1 says: For installation or upgrading instructions, please see the doc/mailman-install/index.html file. But there is only admin/www/mailman-install/index.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Tokio Kikuchi (tkikuchi) Date: 2005-01-19 02:33 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=67709 Thank you. This was fixed in CVS. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1104645&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1104635 ] building with old msgmerge (without option "-U")
by SourceForge.net Jan. 19, 2005

Jan. 19, 2005

Bugs item #1104635, was opened at 2005-01-18 17:19 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by tkikuchi You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1104635&group_… Category: configuring/installing Group: 2.1 beta >Status: Closed Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Thomas Arendsen Hein (thomas_ah) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: building with old msgmerge (without option "-U") Initial Comment: Building mailman 2.1.6beta1 on Debian woody yields an error message during make: /usr/bin/python2.2 ../build/bin/msgfmt.py -o zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.mo zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po Merging new template file with existing translations msgmerge -U zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po mailman.pot || touch zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po msgmerge: invalid option -- U Try `msgmerge --help' for more information. /usr/bin/python2.2 ../build/bin/msgfmt.py -o zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.mo zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po woody's msgmerge is too old to support -U (or --update). It seems as if mailman.po did not get updated for zh_TW, all other languages are ok. It's only a cosmetic bug, because make doesn't abort. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Tokio Kikuchi (tkikuchi) Date: 2005-01-19 02:25 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=67709 mailman.po files are essentially 'msgmerge'd before shipping in the tar ball. So, this error is safely ignored unless you are going to generate your own mailman.po catalog by yourself. There is also a problem in Chinese(Taiwan) charset (Big5) that it allows special characters (like '\') in the second byte of 16bit code. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1104635&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1104646 ] Messages Duplicated to Similar List Names
by SourceForge.net Jan. 18, 2005

Jan. 18, 2005

Bugs item #1104646, was opened at 2005-01-18 12:34 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1104646&group_… Category: mail delivery Group: 2.1 (stable) Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: istvans (istvans) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Messages Duplicated to Similar List Names Initial Comment: We have 2 mailings lists for students: One is called "undergrads", and the other is called "grads". When a message is posted to either list alone the messages process correctly. Subscribers receive only one copy for each list to which they are subscribed. However if BOTH lists are included in a single TO: in a message (So To: grads@host, undergrads@host) the end result is 3 (THREE) messages: One message from [Grads] One message from [Undergrads] One message from [Grads][Undergrads] these lists are not configured to be umbrella lists. All other lists behave correctly so if messages are sent to the lists called: Faculty, Staff, General the message processing behaves correctly. A single message addressed as follows: TO: staff@host, faculty@host, general@ host, grads@host delivers only a single message to each subscriber. However if the To is modified to include both the Grads and Undergrads a message will be sent to [Grads][Undergrads] The only issue seems to be with the word "grads" being a complete subset of the word "undergrads" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1104646&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1104645 ] INSTALL points to wrong location in 2.1.6b1
by SourceForge.net Jan. 18, 2005

Jan. 18, 2005

Bugs item #1104645, was opened at 2005-01-18 18:32 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1104645&group_… Category: documentation Group: 2.1 beta Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Thomas Arendsen Hein (thomas_ah) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: INSTALL points to wrong location in 2.1.6b1 Initial Comment: INSTALL in 2.1.6b1 says: For installation or upgrading instructions, please see the doc/mailman-install/index.html file. But there is only admin/www/mailman-install/index.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1104645&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1085651 ] Broken PGP/MIME signature of messages with attachments
by SourceForge.net Jan. 18, 2005

Jan. 18, 2005

Bugs item #1085651, was opened at 2004-12-15 03:54 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by egagnon You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1085651&group_… Category: mail delivery Group: 2.1 (stable) Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Etienne M. Gagnon (egagnon) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Broken PGP/MIME signature of messages with attachments Initial Comment: Hi, When I send a PGP/MIME signed message *with* attachments (in addition to the PGP signature) to a Mailman-based mailing list, Firefox/Enigmail fails to verify the signature of the message forwarded by mailman. I have uploaded an example message with a broken signature as attachment to this bug. You can also see how Mailman's automatic archives don't even handle such messages correctly by looking at how it archived that message at: http://sablecc.org/lists/sablecc-user/2004-December/000159.html I've looked in the bugs database and found that a somewhat related problem was reported a while ago, but note that the current bug is different. The original bug was about PGP/MIME signed messages without attachments that were handled incorrectly by Enigmail. This one is about messages with attachments, and it is likely that the bug is Mailman's, at least accroding to the reply I got in: http://bugzilla.mozdev.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8466 Thanks for your help (and for the magnificient software)! Etienne ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Etienne M. Gagnon (egagnon) Date: 2005-01-18 12:30 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=15365 I am attaching a screen shot of the content filtering settings (see the options.png attachment I have added to this bug report). In short, content filtering is disabled, so I don't think it is the cause of the problem. :-/ Etienne ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Brad Knowles (shub) Date: 2005-01-16 19:37 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=18417 Look at your content filter settings. What MIME-types are you configured to pass? At the very least, you should be configured to pass the following: multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain application/pgp-signature multipart/signed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Toni Willberg (toniw) Date: 2005-01-07 20:23 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=190645 I can reproduce this bug also. Here's a diff what happened to me: diff -u mail.valid mail.invalid Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=configure.in.pre-pkgconfig.patch -Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=configure.in.pre-pkgconfig.patch; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=configure.in.pre-pkgconfig.patch; + charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 And this was _inside_ gpg-signed block. Mailman should not alter that section at all, right? X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Yours, Toni Willberg <toniw(a)iki.fi> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Etienne M. Gagnon (egagnon) Date: 2004-12-29 23:03 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=15365 Any update? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1085651&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1104635 ] building with old msgmerge (without option "-U")
by SourceForge.net Jan. 18, 2005

Jan. 18, 2005

Bugs item #1104635, was opened at 2005-01-18 18:19 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1104635&group_… Category: configuring/installing Group: 2.1 beta Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Thomas Arendsen Hein (thomas_ah) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: building with old msgmerge (without option "-U") Initial Comment: Building mailman 2.1.6beta1 on Debian woody yields an error message during make: /usr/bin/python2.2 ../build/bin/msgfmt.py -o zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.mo zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po Merging new template file with existing translations msgmerge -U zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po mailman.pot || touch zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po msgmerge: invalid option -- U Try `msgmerge --help' for more information. /usr/bin/python2.2 ../build/bin/msgfmt.py -o zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.mo zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po woody's msgmerge is too old to support -U (or --update). It seems as if mailman.po did not get updated for zh_TW, all other languages are ok. It's only a cosmetic bug, because make doesn't abort. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1104635&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1104433 ] Configurable per-user/per-subscription subject prefix
by SourceForge.net Jan. 18, 2005

Jan. 18, 2005

Bugs item #1104433, was opened at 2005-01-18 12:44 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1104433&group_… Category: configuring/installing Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Ross Golder (rossigee) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Configurable per-user/per-subscription subject prefix Initial Comment: I've had a request from a list member who would like us to add a subject prefix to all the lists on our server (mail.gnome.org), as his mail client can't do any kind of automatic filtering. We are obviously reluctant to change the status quo, as many people (e.g. PDA/mobile users) would then respond asking us to remove them. Instead, I decided to file this feature request to make it (per-subscription) configurable. It would have one of three possible values; use the default list setting, override on or override off. This would allow users to please themselves, and in some cases overcome problems caused by limitations in their mailclient. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1104433&group_…

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