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[ mailman-Bugs-1449048 ] non-member post failuer
by SourceForge.net March 14, 2006

March 14, 2006

Bugs item #1449048, was opened at 2006-03-13 10:18 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by msapiro You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1449048&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Linda Betts (llbetts) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: non-member post failuer Initial Comment: Running Mailman 2.1.5 on Red Hat Linux 3. Have list configured to discard posts from non-members. Non-member sent in auto reply containing my address has changed information that actually came from the new address which was not registered. List server sent this auto-reply from non-member to the list. Can't find similar problem reported or bug fix. Output list configuration, pertinent info below: # legal values are: # 0 = "Accept" # 1 = "Hold" # 2 = "Reject" # 3 = "Discard" generic_nonmember_action = 3 Please advise. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2006-03-13 18:07 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 anonymous_list = True no info about original sender left in archives, but there is an entry 'post to hgsa-web-updates from xxx anonymized' in the 'post' log which will at least tell you the From: value, although that isn't guaranteed to be the 'member' that was accepted. But anyway, chack that address in the Membership list and verify that it is moderated. Or you can see FAQ 3.62 at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.062.htp for a pointer to a script that can screen-scrape the admin web interface and enable you to easily find any unmoderated members. Note that if there are any at all, your list is vulnerable to spoofing, even inadvertently by some half brain dead autoresponder. As one possibility, is the fixed reply-to 'hgsa-web(a)hgsa.com' an unmoderated member? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Linda Betts (llbetts) Date: 2006-03-13 17:10 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1063268 According to the output from config_list these 2 items are set to: accept_these_nonmembers = [] generic_nonmember_action = 3 I have attached the complete output from the config_list output. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2006-03-13 16:31 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Is there anything in accept_these_nonmembers? What is generic_nonmember_action? If one or the other of these settings don't explain the issue, then I'm afraid that without specific information as to the headers of the post as received by Mailman and specific list configuration information, we aren't going to be able to understand what happened or if there is a bug involved. In any case, I am moving this from 'patches' to 'bugs' for the interim as it clearly isn't a patch. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Linda Betts (llbetts) Date: 2006-03-13 15:26 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1063268 Although I agree with the comments that if any of the headers contains the real members email address it will be processed as a member, the real member is moderated and all posts from moderated members are configured to be discarded. Therefore, in this configuration it should not matter who sent the reply. Only the list owner is allowed to send messages to the list and the reply should have been discarded. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2006-03-13 13:00 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 In a default installation, post will be determined to be from a list member if the envelope sender or any of the From:, Reply-To: or Sender: headers contain a member address. You could send an off list message to the old address and inspect the returned message to see if Return-Path: (the envelope sender), From:, Reply-To: or Sender: contain the old address. If so, accepting this would be expected behavior. Note that in a situation like this, it may be preferable to discuss the issue on mailman-users(a)python.org before submitting a bug report. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1449048&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1449048 ] non-member post failuer
by SourceForge.net March 14, 2006

March 14, 2006

Bugs item #1449048, was opened at 2006-03-13 13:18 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by llbetts You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1449048&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Linda Betts (llbetts) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: non-member post failuer Initial Comment: Running Mailman 2.1.5 on Red Hat Linux 3. Have list configured to discard posts from non-members. Non-member sent in auto reply containing my address has changed information that actually came from the new address which was not registered. List server sent this auto-reply from non-member to the list. Can't find similar problem reported or bug fix. Output list configuration, pertinent info below: # legal values are: # 0 = "Accept" # 1 = "Hold" # 2 = "Reject" # 3 = "Discard" generic_nonmember_action = 3 Please advise. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Linda Betts (llbetts) Date: 2006-03-13 20:10 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1063268 According to the output from config_list these 2 items are set to: accept_these_nonmembers = [] generic_nonmember_action = 3 I have attached the complete output from the config_list output. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2006-03-13 19:31 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Is there anything in accept_these_nonmembers? What is generic_nonmember_action? If one or the other of these settings don't explain the issue, then I'm afraid that without specific information as to the headers of the post as received by Mailman and specific list configuration information, we aren't going to be able to understand what happened or if there is a bug involved. In any case, I am moving this from 'patches' to 'bugs' for the interim as it clearly isn't a patch. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Linda Betts (llbetts) Date: 2006-03-13 18:26 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1063268 Although I agree with the comments that if any of the headers contains the real members email address it will be processed as a member, the real member is moderated and all posts from moderated members are configured to be discarded. Therefore, in this configuration it should not matter who sent the reply. Only the list owner is allowed to send messages to the list and the reply should have been discarded. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2006-03-13 16:00 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 In a default installation, post will be determined to be from a list member if the envelope sender or any of the From:, Reply-To: or Sender: headers contain a member address. You could send an off list message to the old address and inspect the returned message to see if Return-Path: (the envelope sender), From:, Reply-To: or Sender: contain the old address. If so, accepting this would be expected behavior. Note that in a situation like this, it may be preferable to discuss the issue on mailman-users(a)python.org before submitting a bug report. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1449048&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1449048 ] non-member post failuer
by SourceForge.net March 14, 2006

March 14, 2006

Bugs item #1449048, was opened at 2006-03-13 10:18 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by msapiro You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1449048&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. >Category: None >Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Linda Betts (llbetts) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: non-member post failuer Initial Comment: Running Mailman 2.1.5 on Red Hat Linux 3. Have list configured to discard posts from non-members. Non-member sent in auto reply containing my address has changed information that actually came from the new address which was not registered. List server sent this auto-reply from non-member to the list. Can't find similar problem reported or bug fix. Output list configuration, pertinent info below: # legal values are: # 0 = "Accept" # 1 = "Hold" # 2 = "Reject" # 3 = "Discard" generic_nonmember_action = 3 Please advise. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2006-03-13 16:31 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Is there anything in accept_these_nonmembers? What is generic_nonmember_action? If one or the other of these settings don't explain the issue, then I'm afraid that without specific information as to the headers of the post as received by Mailman and specific list configuration information, we aren't going to be able to understand what happened or if there is a bug involved. In any case, I am moving this from 'patches' to 'bugs' for the interim as it clearly isn't a patch. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Linda Betts (llbetts) Date: 2006-03-13 15:26 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1063268 Although I agree with the comments that if any of the headers contains the real members email address it will be processed as a member, the real member is moderated and all posts from moderated members are configured to be discarded. Therefore, in this configuration it should not matter who sent the reply. Only the list owner is allowed to send messages to the list and the reply should have been discarded. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2006-03-13 13:00 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 In a default installation, post will be determined to be from a list member if the envelope sender or any of the From:, Reply-To: or Sender: headers contain a member address. You could send an off list message to the old address and inspect the returned message to see if Return-Path: (the envelope sender), From:, Reply-To: or Sender: contain the old address. If so, accepting this would be expected behavior. Note that in a situation like this, it may be preferable to discuss the issue on mailman-users(a)python.org before submitting a bug report. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1449048&group_…

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[ mailman-Patches-1449048 ] non-member post failuer
by SourceForge.net March 13, 2006

March 13, 2006

Patches item #1449048, was opened at 2006-03-13 13:18 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by llbetts You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=1449048&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: bounce processing Group: Mailman 2.1 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Linda Betts (llbetts) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: non-member post failuer Initial Comment: Running Mailman 2.1.5 on Red Hat Linux 3. Have list configured to discard posts from non-members. Non-member sent in auto reply containing my address has changed information that actually came from the new address which was not registered. List server sent this auto-reply from non-member to the list. Can't find similar problem reported or bug fix. Output list configuration, pertinent info below: # legal values are: # 0 = "Accept" # 1 = "Hold" # 2 = "Reject" # 3 = "Discard" generic_nonmember_action = 3 Please advise. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Linda Betts (llbetts) Date: 2006-03-13 18:26 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1063268 Although I agree with the comments that if any of the headers contains the real members email address it will be processed as a member, the real member is moderated and all posts from moderated members are configured to be discarded. Therefore, in this configuration it should not matter who sent the reply. Only the list owner is allowed to send messages to the list and the reply should have been discarded. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2006-03-13 16:00 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 In a default installation, post will be determined to be from a list member if the envelope sender or any of the From:, Reply-To: or Sender: headers contain a member address. You could send an off list message to the old address and inspect the returned message to see if Return-Path: (the envelope sender), From:, Reply-To: or Sender: contain the old address. If so, accepting this would be expected behavior. Note that in a situation like this, it may be preferable to discuss the issue on mailman-users(a)python.org before submitting a bug report. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=1449048&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1170651 ] Mail Delivery not working
by SourceForge.net March 13, 2006

March 13, 2006

Bugs item #1170651, was opened at 2005-03-25 09:49 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by msapiro You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1170651&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: mail delivery Group: 2.1 (stable) Status: Closed Resolution: Out of Date Priority: 5 Submitted By: Chris (ttoolman2000) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Mail Delivery not working Initial Comment: Hello everyone, I am trying to setup an included mailing list which was setup through the Plesk Control Panel as a part of 1and1.com's root server package. Mailman version 2.1.1 I am able to add users both at the Plesk side and the Mailman side, however it never sends e-mail confirmations, and when I try to e-mail the test mailing list I made I never get any replies nor does it get posted or sent to the list. When I tried to view all lists on my host: http://lists.mjtstages.com/mailman/listinfo I received a bug report http://lists.mjtstages.com/mailman/listinfo If anyone has any insight in fixing this problem that would be great, I might also mention suggest viewing the list to see the Bug report for viewing. Thanks, Chris ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2006-03-13 13:20 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Well, now I know why I'm losing URLs. They're being mistaken for tags because I put < and > around them. The url is http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.014.htp ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2006-03-13 13:17 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Ooops. the url got lost it was Regarding non-delivery, see <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.014.htp>. Also, given the age of this report which I also didn't notice before, I'm closing it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2006-03-13 13:13 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 As in prior comment, http://lists.mjtstages.com/mailman/listinfo works for me. I get the expected listinfo page with five lists. Each of those takes me to the expected listinfo page. Regarding non-delivery, see <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.014.htp> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Kenny (asmig) Date: 2006-03-13 12:30 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=217596 This appears to have been resolved. Please update the status of this ticket, and if you have a moment, add comments detailing what you did to resolve the problem. Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1170651&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1170651 ] Mail Delivery not working
by SourceForge.net March 13, 2006

March 13, 2006

Bugs item #1170651, was opened at 2005-03-25 09:49 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by msapiro You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1170651&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: mail delivery Group: 2.1 (stable) >Status: Closed >Resolution: Out of Date Priority: 5 Submitted By: Chris (ttoolman2000) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Mail Delivery not working Initial Comment: Hello everyone, I am trying to setup an included mailing list which was setup through the Plesk Control Panel as a part of 1and1.com's root server package. Mailman version 2.1.1 I am able to add users both at the Plesk side and the Mailman side, however it never sends e-mail confirmations, and when I try to e-mail the test mailing list I made I never get any replies nor does it get posted or sent to the list. When I tried to view all lists on my host: http://lists.mjtstages.com/mailman/listinfo I received a bug report http://lists.mjtstages.com/mailman/listinfo If anyone has any insight in fixing this problem that would be great, I might also mention suggest viewing the list to see the Bug report for viewing. Thanks, Chris ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2006-03-13 13:17 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Ooops. the url got lost it was Regarding non-delivery, see <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.014.htp>. Also, given the age of this report which I also didn't notice before, I'm closing it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2006-03-13 13:13 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 As in prior comment, http://lists.mjtstages.com/mailman/listinfo works for me. I get the expected listinfo page with five lists. Each of those takes me to the expected listinfo page. Regarding non-delivery, see <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.014.htp> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Kenny (asmig) Date: 2006-03-13 12:30 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=217596 This appears to have been resolved. Please update the status of this ticket, and if you have a moment, add comments detailing what you did to resolve the problem. Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1170651&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1170651 ] Mail Delivery not working
by SourceForge.net March 13, 2006

March 13, 2006

Bugs item #1170651, was opened at 2005-03-25 09:49 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by msapiro You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1170651&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: mail delivery Group: 2.1 (stable) Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Chris (ttoolman2000) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Mail Delivery not working Initial Comment: Hello everyone, I am trying to setup an included mailing list which was setup through the Plesk Control Panel as a part of 1and1.com's root server package. Mailman version 2.1.1 I am able to add users both at the Plesk side and the Mailman side, however it never sends e-mail confirmations, and when I try to e-mail the test mailing list I made I never get any replies nor does it get posted or sent to the list. When I tried to view all lists on my host: http://lists.mjtstages.com/mailman/listinfo I received a bug report http://lists.mjtstages.com/mailman/listinfo If anyone has any insight in fixing this problem that would be great, I might also mention suggest viewing the list to see the Bug report for viewing. Thanks, Chris ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2006-03-13 13:13 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 As in prior comment, http://lists.mjtstages.com/mailman/listinfo works for me. I get the expected listinfo page with five lists. Each of those takes me to the expected listinfo page. Regarding non-delivery, see <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.014.htp> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Kenny (asmig) Date: 2006-03-13 12:30 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=217596 This appears to have been resolved. Please update the status of this ticket, and if you have a moment, add comments detailing what you did to resolve the problem. Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1170651&group_…

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[ mailman-Patches-1449048 ] non-member post failuer
by SourceForge.net March 13, 2006

March 13, 2006

Patches item #1449048, was opened at 2006-03-13 10:18 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by msapiro You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=1449048&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: bounce processing Group: Mailman 2.1 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Linda Betts (llbetts) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: non-member post failuer Initial Comment: Running Mailman 2.1.5 on Red Hat Linux 3. Have list configured to discard posts from non-members. Non-member sent in auto reply containing my address has changed information that actually came from the new address which was not registered. List server sent this auto-reply from non-member to the list. Can't find similar problem reported or bug fix. Output list configuration, pertinent info below: # legal values are: # 0 = "Accept" # 1 = "Hold" # 2 = "Reject" # 3 = "Discard" generic_nonmember_action = 3 Please advise. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2006-03-13 13:00 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 In a default installation, post will be determined to be from a list member if the envelope sender or any of the From:, Reply-To: or Sender: headers contain a member address. You could send an off list message to the old address and inspect the returned message to see if Return-Path: (the envelope sender), From:, Reply-To: or Sender: contain the old address. If so, accepting this would be expected behavior. Note that in a situation like this, it may be preferable to discuss the issue on mailman-users(a)python.org before submitting a bug report. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=1449048&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1170651 ] Mail Delivery not working
by SourceForge.net March 13, 2006

March 13, 2006

Bugs item #1170651, was opened at 2005-03-25 17:49 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by asmig You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1170651&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: mail delivery Group: 2.1 (stable) Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Chris (ttoolman2000) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Mail Delivery not working Initial Comment: Hello everyone, I am trying to setup an included mailing list which was setup through the Plesk Control Panel as a part of 1and1.com's root server package. Mailman version 2.1.1 I am able to add users both at the Plesk side and the Mailman side, however it never sends e-mail confirmations, and when I try to e-mail the test mailing list I made I never get any replies nor does it get posted or sent to the list. When I tried to view all lists on my host: http://lists.mjtstages.com/mailman/listinfo I received a bug report http://lists.mjtstages.com/mailman/listinfo If anyone has any insight in fixing this problem that would be great, I might also mention suggest viewing the list to see the Bug report for viewing. Thanks, Chris ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Kenny (asmig) Date: 2006-03-13 20:30 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=217596 This appears to have been resolved. Please update the status of this ticket, and if you have a moment, add comments detailing what you did to resolve the problem. Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1170651&group_…

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[ mailman-Patches-1449048 ] non-member post failuer
by SourceForge.net March 13, 2006

March 13, 2006

Patches item #1449048, was opened at 2006-03-13 13:18 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=1449048&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: bounce processing Group: Mailman 2.1 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Linda Betts (llbetts) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: non-member post failuer Initial Comment: Running Mailman 2.1.5 on Red Hat Linux 3. Have list configured to discard posts from non-members. Non-member sent in auto reply containing my address has changed information that actually came from the new address which was not registered. List server sent this auto-reply from non-member to the list. Can't find similar problem reported or bug fix. Output list configuration, pertinent info below: # legal values are: # 0 = "Accept" # 1 = "Hold" # 2 = "Reject" # 3 = "Discard" generic_nonmember_action = 3 Please advise. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=1449048&group_…

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